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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
If you know anything about watercooling or thermodynamics, you would know that both designs are pointless and terribly inefficient.

You have massive restriction, extra thermal layers, poor optimization of surface area, pointless heatsinks, ect. You would be better off getting a cheapo Thermaltake block.


You want to transfer the heat to the water with the least amount of restriction. The heapipe replacement adds 2 additional layers and reduces surface area by a magnitude. The waterbox method adds 4 additional layers, increases thermal resistence by increasing the distance, and reduces surface area by a magnitude.
While this is great info and you just schooled me quite well, unknowingly I might add, umm... haven't you ever taken something apart to see what's inside?
post #52 of 76
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Men were once burned at the stake for saying the earth was round. He has something here. Give him credit for thinking outside of the box. I'm sure with a redesigned block with a larger chamber for the water to absorb some heat, there could be some exciting potential here. Even without. Go for it. Be bold.
Wrong.

Men were not burned at the stake for saying the earth was round. It is a common myth that we would like to believe. Scientists and sailors have known the Earth was round for a few thousand years.

He could make a chamber the size of a 5 gallon or 20 gallon tank.... and it would perform worse than a standard waterblock. It is simple physics. Both designs increase the thermal resistance it takes the heat to enter the water. As you increase thermal resistance, you negate any benefits after the point. It is a thermal bottleneck.
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You're right. I'm am an idiot for trying to make a vague point that you can not seem to comprehend. So if this guy wanted to take apart a clock radio to see what's inside, would you just show him a picture 1st and beat his confidence down so it wouldn't go any further? Why do you have to throw around your 26K posts like you know everything when somebody is just trying to do something new and have some fun rather than simply give the facts in the 1st place. Would it hurt you to say, "nice thought, but..?" Good grief already.
Edited by Paraleyes - 2/2/09 at 6:07am
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@OP: well, i doubt it's going to work very well, but if anything you'll have tried something different. i say go for it!

i wonder how it would perform if it wasn't trying to cool something as hot as a CPU. mayhaps it's more suited to a northbridge cooler.

also: thread needs moar pics!
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post #55 of 76
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You're right. I'm am an idiot for trying to make a vague point that you can not seem to comprehend. So if this guy wanted to take apart a clock radio to see what's inside, would you just show him a picture 1st and beat his confidence down so it wouldn't go any further? Why do you have to throw around your 26K posts like you know everything when somebody is just trying to do something new and have some fun rather than simply give the facts in the 1st place. Would it hurt you to say, "nice thought, but..?" Good grief already.
What? This is nothing like a clock radio. It is a simple physic problem. It is simple basic "How watercooling works."

How am I throwing my 26K posts around? This isn't new... there have been dozen of these threads already with this EXACT idea. If you want... I can go back through the posts and find examples...


Oh yeah... Thermaltake also already made BOTH of the proposed designs:


Still looking for their watercooled heatsink.
Edited by DuckieHo - 2/2/09 at 6:33am
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exactly geesh
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So a company already made it, and you're battering your peenboard saying that Nailju (and me for helping him)is a buffon for having a similar idea minus a stack of money for R&D oh noes Endeavors they be crushed.

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So a company already made it, and you're battering your peenboard saying that Nailju (and me for helping him)is a buffon for having a similar idea minus a stack of money for R&D oh noes Endeavors they be crushed.

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It's a reality check. Complain all you want about how mean I am... but I am right in the physics and that it isn't a new idea.

It was a massive failure... it performed worse than basic aircooling. It so bad... I can't find it anymore. It was a tower heatsink with 1/4" tubing in and out. It's Thermaltake... do you really think they really do any R&D for watercooling? I question if they even bother to bench half of their cooling designs.


FOUND IT! To add to their poor understanding of watercooling, their design used pipes similiar to oil or condenser radiators. These type of radiators are for high heat or high pressure... neither of which apply to PC watercooling.

Heat Exchanger - Volcano 4005 - CL-W0037

Edited by DuckieHo - 2/2/09 at 7:17am
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this is getting interesting..

now that thermaltake tower stuff was really ugly...
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HAHA i actually have that volcano sitting in my desk, it was given to me for free a long while ago..LOL.. what a POS.
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