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Lian-Li = overpriced crap.

CM690/A300 A1200/HAF932 all better cases.
Better in what way? Design? Functionality? Price? Quality? With people like you luxury brands would cease to exist. I can see you as a person who would buy 10 Geo Metros instead of a BMW 335i.

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Ehl oh Elh, I'm surry but wut?

Can you sit on a Lian-Li tower?

my 300 and 690 can both be sat on and be perfectly stable.

Besides, their isn't a thing that Lian-Li makes that warrants the price they charge for their towers.

If they released their cases like the the Rocket Fish ones then we would be talking business.

but 150$+ for a mid tower is absurd.
Lian-Li is a computer case, not a chair, get that straight. $150 absurd? Say that to the 157 mid tower cases on Newegg that are over $150.

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But honestly the case material argument is fail, who the hell cares if they are made of aluminum. I want a case that will keep my hardware as cold as possible and be easy to work on. right now if you want air cooling nothing beats the Antec 1200 $130 at micro center. and for water, nothing beats a HAF for $150. show me a single lian li fulltower case that will cool as well as the two i mentioned and be ANYWHERE near that price range. it wont happen.

And marin stop defending lian li! you have an antec 1200, you know there the smarter buy is at.
Fail? Please explain with evidence and facts instead of emotion which discredits your entire arguement. Case manufacturers make cases out of aluminum because there is a market for those type of cases. "Keep your hardware cold and easy to work on" Lian-li has those cases and more so what are you getting at here?

For all the people who are arguing against Lian-Li cases the only valid point you have is price. You guys are discrediting a case manufacturer based on price alone which is rather unfair. Would it be fair for me to say people who purchase HAF and Antec 1200 have bad taste because those cases are nothing more than ugly dust suckers only a mother would love?
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post #62 of 143
Lian Li are overpriced to the max. Fanboys will defend them to the death though. 100 dollar plain mid tower case anyone? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16811112099
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Sweatshop much? That makes me sad....

I just learned about sweatshops, outsource, and WalMart in my last quarter Writing class on International and Global Issues.
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Better in what way? Design? Functionality? Price? Quality? With people like you luxury brands would cease to exist. I can see you as a person who would buy 10 Geo Metros instead of a BMW 335i.



Lian-Li is a computer case, not a chair, get that straight. $150 absurd? Say that to the 157 mid tower cases on Newegg that are over $150.



Fail? Please explain with evidence and facts instead of emotion which discredits your entire arguement. Case manufacturers make cases out of aluminum because there is a market for those type of cases. "Keep your hardware cold and easy to work on" Lian-li has those cases and more so what are you getting at here?

For all the people who are arguing against Lian-Li cases the only valid point you have is price. You guys are discrediting a case manufacturer based on price alone which is rather unfair. Would it be fair for me to say people who purchase HAF and Antec 1200 have bad taste because those cases are nothing more than ugly dust suckers only a mother would love?
A computer case is nothing but a hollow metal box to house your computer components.. thats it, steel or aluminum it doesnt matter its a box. the only excuse i would consider is if you are female and cant pick up a fully loaded 50 pound steel case. Ugly? look at your monitor and stop drooling and staring at your computer case. dust suckers? 1200 includes dust filters?

I like how you didnt link to any cases who compared at anywhere near the price range of the cases i recommended. i see you are running a lian li case......let it go, this is just my opinion you dont need to defend them or your purchase. yes lian li makes great cases, but if you can buy a competitors case that does the same job for $150-$200 cheaper there is no point.
post #65 of 143
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Originally Posted by OpTicaL View Post
Better in what way? Design? Functionality? Price? Quality? With people like you luxury brands would cease to exist. I can see you as a person who would buy 10 Geo Metros instead of a BMW 335i.



Lian-Li is a computer case, not a chair, get that straight. $150 absurd? Say that to the 157 mid tower cases on Newegg that are over $150.



Fail? Please explain with evidence and facts instead of emotion which discredits your entire arguement. Case manufacturers make cases out of aluminum because there is a market for those type of cases. "Keep your hardware cold and easy to work on" Lian-li has those cases and more so what are you getting at here?

For all the people who are arguing against Lian-Li cases the only valid point you have is price. You guys are discrediting a case manufacturer based on price alone which is rather unfair. Would it be fair for me to say people who purchase HAF and Antec 1200 have bad taste because those cases are nothing more than ugly dust suckers only a mother would love?
there arent 157 midtowers over 150$...

there are 56 cases that are over 100$ that do not have a psu with them, 18 of the 56 cases are lian li's....
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post #66 of 143
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A computer case is nothing but a hollow metal box to house your computer components.. thats it, steel or aluminum it doesnt matter its a box. the only excuse i would consider is if you are female and cant pick up a fully loaded 50 pound steel case. Ugly? look at your monitor and stop drooling and staring at your computer case. dust suckers? 1200 includes dust filters?

I like how you didnt link to any cases who compared at anywhere near the price range of the cases i recommended. i see you are running a lian li case......let it go, this is just my opinion you dont need to defend them or your purchase. yes lian li makes great cases, but if you can buy a competitors case that does the same job for $150-$200 cheaper there is no point.
Steel is worse. Not only does it look worse its worse for cooling. Alluminum is always cool and keeps the case and everything inside cool. Have you ever seen a steel HSF?

Thats why they use it. Looks better, feels better, cools better.
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Steel is worse. Not only does it look worse its worse for cooling. Alluminum is always cool and keeps the case and everything inside cool. Have you ever seen a steel HSF?

Thats why they use it. Looks better, feels better, cools better.
Thats true but...... the case is not used as a heatsink at all, never touching the CPU or GPU cores to even be a valid point. once again its just a box. please dig deep and find me a review or something that proves using a empty steel box cools less then a empty aluminum box. . cooling has much more to do with case design and fan placement creating good airflow, not what the case is made of.

EDIT: FEELS BETTER? WTH MAN STOP HUMPING YOUR CASE!
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Better in what way? Design? Functionality? Price? Quality? With people like you luxury brands would cease to exist. I can see you as a person who would buy 10 Geo Metros instead of a BMW 335i.
Well, one would do the trick, not 10. Then again I wouldn't buy a Geo either. Nor would I buy a BMW, not because of quality or price (the 335i is actually very well priced for what you get), but because of the image associated with them. Same with a Volvo. But I don't want to turn this into a car bashing thread.

Many people like the BMW's because of the status symbol and the same goes for the Lian Li's. They don't work any better than most cheaper cases, so not sure how to justify the cost.

I look at it _usually_ from my customer's point of view; Do the case design and features justify the extra cost? Does the case design compliment the customers product or environment? If not the case cost is unjust. When presented with various case options and prices, so far none of our customers can justify the extra cost of the Lian Li's. One customer specifically thinks they are a little ugly, but they settled on the Armor TT for their builds and I think that case is ugly (the front uhm, er, doors specifically). So we all have opinions on looks.

I like the looks of the Lian Li's but not enough to pay the extra $$ for the name. But then again, I own the CM690 and drool over the Cosmos S.
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Thats true but...... the case is not used as a heatsink at all, never touching the CPU or GPU cores to even be a valid point. once again its just a box. please dig deep and find me a review or something that proves using a empty steel box cools less then a empty aluminum box. . cooling has much more to do with case design and fan placement creating good airflow, not what the case is made of.

EDIT: FEELS BETTER? WTH MAN STOP HUMPING YOUR CASE!
LOL...The only reason I prefer aluminum is for cleaning and working inside...the aluminum reflects light better and if my water cooling leaks it won't rust. ...and it does "feel" better which means rags and paper towels won't snag on rough spots. Aluminum cases will also be one piece most of the time...or at least fewer pieces riveted together.

but there is no real difference other than the wieght.

I would have to say aluminum cases can be moded a bit easier...easier to cut aluminium than it is to cut steel.

but you are NOT going to mod a $400+ Lian Li
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I buy cases for internal layout, durability, and price.

My Lancool is hardly a status symbol. It looks very bland now that I've removed the front door, and I expect it to be scratched to hell before long. So what?

This case has one of the best internal layouts in the price range. With the exception of the drive cage, it's very easy to work with for it's size, and fits all of my components well. The mobo tray is also long enough to accomodate my GTX260 without getting in the way of harddrives, or being difficult to get power cables to it.

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Steel is not anywhere near as good as alluminum for cases.
Alluminum is much better for keeping your parts cool, i mean you dont see steel heatsinks do you?. My cm stacker is ALWAYS cold to touch and is never warm inside. But all my other cases that are steel always seem warm inside no matter how many fans are running.
The cooling performance of an aluminium vs. steel case is non-existant.

I prefer steel as it is more durable, but I really like the internal layout of my current Lian-Li Lancool.

Still, I may switch back to my P182 for my primary system, as it does have somewhat better cooling, and is very tough.
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