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more very happy ladies making some lian li cases, the one on the left looks like shes going to kill someone.


Edited by Derp - 1/27/09 at 6:02pm
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Edited by Marin - 1/27/09 at 6:13pm
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post #84 of 143
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
Lian-Li = overpriced crap.

CM690/A300 A1200/HAF932 all better cases.
As Marin said, Lian Li's are MUCH higher quality, my Centurion 5 is barely standing up to the punishment I give it... a Lian Li would take it just fine.

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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
It would be a different scenario if they made aluminum mATX cube cases like the Qpack or Lanbox series of cases. Which I would understand why they are light, because they are supposed to be moved alot.
But in this case. A tower case, for that matter a full tower case does not really need to be that light. Or cost that much.
Keep saying that as much as you want.. The relativity light Centurion 5 I have, it's already slightly bending my desk, I guess we don't need light towers! (Argument is Jsut because you don't need it, doesn't mean everyone doesn't.)

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Already been done . $900 and you can have a carbon fiber case too!



http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...68747&CatId=32

But honestly the case material argument is fail, who the hell cares if they are made of aluminum. I want a case that will keep my hardware as cold as possible and be easy to work on. right now if you want air cooling nothing beats the Antec 1200 $130 at micro center. and for water, nothing beats a HAF for $150. show me a single lian li fulltower case that will cool as well as the two i mentioned and be ANYWHERE near that price range. it wont happen.

And marin stop defending lian li! you have an antec 1200, you know there the smarter buy is at.
IMO, If you mod even a little, Lian Li can beat out even the Antec 1200/HAF 932, depending on which case you get at least, look at the Rocketfish and the case its based off, 120x3 in the top, still heaps of room.

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*Cunningly slides a 20lb metal cube under his shirt*
No, You have to take the parts one by one and make it at home, you already have the idea, working in the factory, you just take one HDD cage, etc at a time.

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A computer case is nothing but a hollow metal box to house your computer components.. thats it, steel or aluminum it doesnt matter its a box. the only excuse i would consider is if you are female and cant pick up a fully loaded 50 pound steel case. Ugly? look at your monitor and stop drooling and staring at your computer case. dust suckers? 1200 includes dust filters?

I like how you didnt link to any cases who compared at anywhere near the price range of the cases i recommended. i see you are running a lian li case......let it go, this is just my opinion you dont need to defend them or your purchase. yes lian li makes great cases, but if you can buy a competitors case that does the same job for $150-$200 cheaper there is no point.
Here's someone with a really cheap CM case who is planning on getting either a Antec 1200, HAF 932 OR a older Lian Li defending Lian Li, Unlike the motherboard, etc, I can say that if your PC is say, in your living room, you WILL want one that looks good, also.. in Australia, the Antec 1200 costs $250, A midrage Lian Li costs $300, if your that anal you can't spend an extra $50 (Which is worth it), then why would you buy a good PC when a Pentium 4 with intergrated Graphics and 1Gb RAM running XP would cut it?

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Thats true but...... the case is not used as a heatsink at all, never touching the CPU or GPU cores to even be a valid point. once again its just a box. please dig deep and find me a review or something that proves using a empty steel box cools less then a empty aluminum box. . cooling has much more to do with case design and fan placement creating good airflow, not what the case is made of.

EDIT: FEELS BETTER? WTH MAN STOP HUMPING YOUR CASE!
A box that holds your components and, ultimately, decides the ambient temperature? Steel cases get warmer over the time you use them, thus raising the ambient temperature, then your CPU/GPU temperatures, Hell, I am running sideless on my Centurion 5 and I can feel the heat on the top of it and the back of the motherboard tray.

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Dude, get it through your head, case material has no effect on the temperature of your hardware, once again it has to do with case design, fan placement and CFM of the fans. your stacker probably cools better then your other steel cases because it has like 8 fans right? are you trying to compare your stacker to a $40 oem case that has two 80mm fans?

If it had any effect there would have been reviews and tests done to prove or disprove the theory, but nothing has been proven because its a fairy tale excuse that is false. post some results if you have any. trust me it would be bolded in huge neon red letters on lian li's website "aluminum case = 5C lower temps!".
It's not one of those things you believe until you have seen it first hand, My friends Lian Li DID only have cool air coming out the back, and I compared the air from mine to his at a LAN, His was cool to the touch, mine was hot/warm, not to mention, he had a OC'd Q6600's heat being taken by the exhaust fan, while I have a OC'd 45nm Dual Core's heat..
    
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As Marin said, Lian Li's are MUCH higher quality, my Centurion 5 is barely standing up to the punishment I give it... a Lian Li would take it just fine.


Keep saying that as much as you want.. The relativity light Centurion 5 I have, it's already slightly bending my desk, I guess we don't need light towers! (Argument is Jsut because you don't need it, doesn't mean everyone doesn't.)



IMO, If you mod even a little, Lian Li can beat out even the Antec 1200/HAF 932, depending on which case you get at least, look at the Rocketfish and the case its based off, 120x3 in the top, still heaps of room.



No, You have to take the parts one by one and make it at home, you already have the idea, working in the factory, you just take one HDD cage, etc at a time.



Here's someone with a really cheap CM case who is planning on getting either a Antec 1200, HAF 932 OR a older Lian Li defending Lian Li, Unlike the motherboard, etc, I can say that if your PC is say, in your living room, you WILL want one that looks good, also.. in Australia, the Antec 1200 costs $250, A midrage Lian Li costs $300, if your that anal you can't spend an extra $50 (Which is worth it), then why would you buy a good PC when a Pentium 4 with intergrated Graphics and 1Gb RAM running XP would cut it?



A box that holds your components and, ultimately, decides the ambient temperature? Steel cases get warmer over the time you use them, thus raising the ambient temperature, then your CPU/GPU temperatures, Hell, I am running sideless on my Centurion 5 and I can feel the heat on the top of it and the back of the motherboard tray.



It's not one of those things you believe until you have seen it first hand, My friends Lian Li DID only have cool air coming out the back, and I compared the air from mine to his at a LAN, His was cool to the touch, mine was hot/warm, not to mention, he had a OC'd Q6600's heat being taken by the exhaust fan, while I have a OC'd 45nm Dual Core's heat..
i give up..... forget case fans just make your case 10mm thick aluminum cause it cools your case with magic!!!!! seriously wth. all this based on what you thought you felt with your hand on the exhaust of two completely different cases with completely different hardware with completely different fans...... epic.
Edited by Derp - 1/27/09 at 6:23pm
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more very happy ladies making some lian li cases, the one on the left looks like shes going to kill someone.

Lol, she does.
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i give up..... forget case fans just make your case 10mm thick aluminum cause it cools your case with magic!!!!! seriously wth. all this based on what you thought you felt with your hand on the exhaust of two completely different cases with completely different hardware with completely different fans...... epic.
I'm using the Xigmatek Stock Fan as my back, He was using a Scythe Slipstream, the funny thing is, although mine was pushing more air (His was silent), his was running Cooler, he had a TRUE, but apart from that (Which I doubt caused the 15c difference, considering the Xiggy runs almost as good as a TRUE on a Dualie), there was nothing else that could of been the difference, I've got two 120mm fans and no front on them while he had two behind a grill and mine was still running warmer... Please tell me why his CPU was at 3.6Ghz, mine at 3.5Ghz, His putting out more heat but running at 45c fully loaded, mine putting out less heat but running at 60c fully loaded.
    
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I'm using the Xigmatek Stock Fan as my back, He was using a Scythe Slipstream, the funny thing is, although mine was pushing more air (His was silent), his was running Cooler, he had a TRUE, but apart from that (Which I doubt caused the 15c difference, considering the Xiggy runs almost as good as a TRUE on a Dualie), there was nothing else that could of been the difference, I've got two 120mm fans and no front on them while he had two behind a grill and mine was still running warmer... Please tell me why his CPU was at 3.6Ghz, mine at 3.5Ghz, His putting out more heat but running at 45c fully loaded, mine putting out less heat but running at 60c fully loaded.
FACT: your testing is flawed to say the least.

Unless you get a company to build an identical case in both aluminum and steel with identical fans, identical hardware installed including GPU, down to the last piece of hardware. same ambients, identical overclocks same cpu coolers..... everything, you get the point.

Unless you perform this test or have a review that you can link me to that proves having an aluminum case cools better then a steel case, its very pointless to use your experience on a completely different case design and hardware to come to a silly conclusion of " its cuz of teh aluminum case!!!!"

EDIT: 3.6 Ghz Q6600 full load at 45C? LOLOLOL im sure.
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FACT: your testing is flawed to say the least.

unless you get a company to build an identical case in both aluminum and steel with identical fans, identical hardware installed including GPU, down to the last piece of hardware. same ambients, identical overclocks same cpu coolers..... everything, you get the point.

Unless you perform this test or have a review that you can link me to that proves having an aluminum case cools better then a steel case, its very pointless to use your experience on a completely different case design and hardware to come to a silly conclusion of " its cuz of teh aluminum case!!!!"
So because he had a hotter CPU, Slightly better cooler, Worse/Quieter fans as intake and exhaust and a closed case, while I had faster fans, Cooler CPU, worse cooler and a more open (No sides/front), It was a cool breeze coming from Santa's bad gas that was making his rig cooler, there was NOTHING else that I can think of resulting in that!
    
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