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Please post your results here in this thread.

Format:

(Name of old paste) Results:
Ambient:
Idle:
Load:

TC Grease 0098 Results:
Ambient:
Idle:
Load:

Be sure to include the temps of each core.
Use the grain of rice method to apply.
Use Orthos, OCCT, or Prime 95 to load the CPU.
Use Realtemp, CoreTemp, or HWMonitor to monitor the results.
That's it!
Edited by spaceballsrules - 1/29/09 at 7:49am
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post #2 of 27
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Just so everyone participating knows, the e-mail addresses were sent to David@TIM Consultants this morning (Thursday), so expect that $0.01 charge request in Paypal soon.
Also, if any OCNers have done a comparison of TC Grease 0098 against another thermal paste, you are welcome to post your results as well.
Thanks all
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post #3 of 27
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And now, a word form your sponsor, David Dalesandro@TIM Consultants:

Thank you all for agreeing to test TC Grease 0098. Attached, please find the application instructions. These instructions are fairly generic, and therefore if you feel you already have a better method you would like to use, chances are that would be ok.

From my experience, I have tried to get as thin a bond line as possible by screen printing a small amount on to the heat sink. What I have found, in my testing, is that sometimes when the bondline is too thin, there is not good contact, and the thermal resistance shoots very high. When that happens, I usually put a glob more of compound onto the heat sink and the test runs great. Point being, it is better to have a bit too much compound then a bit too less.

One other note, if you are using heat pipes in your heat sinks, your results will probably not be correlated well with others. If a thermal material is not effective, the heat pipes work “harder” and give better cooling which is an advantage to worse performing materials. This advantage gets minimized the hotter the CPU. The best way to test thermal materials is to keep all cooling variables constant (ie use a heat sink without heat pipes, control the fan speed, etc).


Please see the instructions attached....
Edited by spaceballsrules - 1/31/09 at 2:47pm
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post #4 of 27
Temperatures in Celsius obviously. CPU is sig rig, GPU is 9600 GSO with fans at 80%. CPU loaded with 3 passes of Orthos mixed, GPU loaded with 3 minutes of ATI tool.

Stock TIM for GPUs:

Ambient: 19

GPU Idle: 44
GPU Load: 60


Shin-Etsu MicroSi:

Ambient: 19

CPU Idle: 33, 37
CPU Load: 53, 50


TC Grease 0098:

Ambient: 19c

CPU Idle: 42, 44
CPU Load: 62, 64

GPU Idle: 45
GPU Load: 64 - began to artifact after 2 minutes


Needless to say, I am disappointed. Even the disgusting globs of paste put on by Nvidia performed better. I will wait for others to post their results before I come no any conclusions, and I will also test again tomorrow to see if the paste needs to cure.
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post #5 of 27
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OUCH! Not good at all! I hope others get better results.
Also, make sure that you use enough. I posted a note from TIM above to clarify the application.

You did something wrong. I just put mine on my CPU and it is staying within 1-2 degrees of OCZ Freeze and IC7 Diamond, and that's stress testing immediately after application. Idles are also showing the same difference. I will give it the old hot/cold for a few hours to let it set properly, but as of now, it is performing very well for me.
Maybe the Shin-Etsu is that good!?
Edited by spaceballsrules - 1/31/09 at 3:49pm
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post #6 of 27
Second Round:

TC Grease 0098:

Ambient: 19c

CPU Idle: 34, 37
CPU Load: 58, 59

GPU Idle: 45
GPU Load: 62


Still not good, especially on the GPU which shoots up 4-6 degrees higher when folding(note the above values were taken after 3 minutes of artifact scanning in ATI tool). Nonetheless, the second application came out better. I cleaned off all the paste from the first time and then simply slapped on a large blob in the center of the dies. Apparently this TIM needs to be put on in large quantities to be effective. When I used my Shin Etsu, it was simply a dash of it which spread out to an extremely thin amount.

Bottom line: Next time I break down the rig, I'm going with Shin Etsu.
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post #7 of 27
I will be testing mine when I get it. I will not be able to check for it until Wednesday. I am hoping to have some good testing runs on my upcoming days off. I will be using heatpipes so this should be interesting
post #8 of 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cuy50 View Post
Second Round:

TC Grease 0098:

Ambient: 19c

CPU Idle: 34, 37
CPU Load: 58, 59

GPU Idle: 45
GPU Load: 62


Still not good, especially on the GPU which shoots up 4-6 degrees higher when folding(note the above values were taken after 3 minutes of artifact scanning in ATI tool). Nonetheless, the second application came out better. I cleaned off all the paste from the first time and then simply slapped on a large blob in the center of the dies. Apparently this TIM needs to be put on in large quantities to be effective. When I used my Shin Etsu, it was simply a dash of it which spread out to an extremely thin amount.

Bottom line: Next time I break down the rig, I'm going with Shin Etsu.
Go Shin Etsu!
I will tally these up as the final temps for you then.
I am still watching the temps on mine, and they have actually dropped a little. I will post my final results after i let it settle overnight and stress test tomorrow.
My idle temps are actually sneaking a little lower than both OCZ Freeze and IC7, but at load it goes about 1*C over on each core.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmasherBasher View Post
I will be testing mine when I get it. I will not be able to check for it until Wednesday. I am hoping to have some good testing runs on my upcoming days off. I will be using heatpipes so this should be interesting
You should get it shortly. Most were sent out Friday or Saturday, and i already had mine when I checked the mail Saturday afternoon.
What are heatpipes? That's a new one one me.
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Here are heatpipes. They are just that. Pipes that conduct heat away from the CPU.
BTW I figured I'd show the cooler I will be using for testing as well.
post #10 of 27
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Here are my results.
Ambient is 19*C for all tests.
Using Orthos to stress.
Using CoreTemp and HWMonitor to monitor temps.


AS5
Idle - 43/30
Load - 53/41

Noctua NT-H1
Idle - 42/27
Load - 50/37

OCZ Freeze
Idle - 40/25
Load - 47/33

IC7 Diamond
Idle - 40/24
Load - 47/33

TC Grease 0098
Idle - 41/27
Load - 48/34

Final Ranking
1. IC7 Diamond
2. OCZ Freeze
3. TC Grease 0098
4. Noctua NT-H1
5. AS5 :turd:
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