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11/2/10 at 2:08am
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Research reasearch research. That's all you need for a good sounding system. We cannot help you with every specific details about specific drivers. Search on Google. If you get darn good drivers but with a design without any scientific inputs whatsoever, it will sound worse than boomboxes. As I said before, lurk more on audio forums. OCN is not an audio forum.IMO, the sub-forum for audio on OCN cannot provide enough information/contribution to speaker making.
yeah, i have a retarded amount of information to learn.

https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=275



i almost poo'ed a brick when i saw 97 db sensitivity, 42 hz - 14,000 htz on an 8 inch woofer. then again it is $200 lol.

https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=286



then theres 98 db and 5,000 - 50,000 htz from this badass looking tweeter! i'd put this tweeter in my speaker over most $100+ ones i see around based on looks alone lol. its pretty cheap for what i see imo, but it might actually suck. i dont know because im not experienced.

even if i dont get that ridiculous $200 woofer, i really want that tweeter regardless, anyone have any opinions on it before i ask other audio forums?

i almost want to make some speakers with those drivers. ive never seen 97 db from a woofer before, but i havent seen that many.

any audio forum recommendations?
Edited by coreyL - 11/2/10 at 2:18am
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11/2/10 at 2:30pm
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yeah, i have a retarded amount of information to learn.

https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=275

i almost poo'ed a brick when i saw 97 db sensitivity, 42 hz - 14,000 htz on an 8 inch woofer. then again it is $200 lol.

https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=286

then theres 98 db and 5,000 - 50,000 htz from this badass looking tweeter! i'd put this tweeter in my speaker over most $100+ ones i see around based on looks alone lol. its pretty cheap for what i see imo, but it might actually suck. i dont know because im not experienced.

even if i dont get that ridiculous $200 woofer, i really want that tweeter regardless, anyone have any opinions on it before i ask other audio forums?

i almost want to make some speakers with those drivers. ive never seen 97 db from a woofer before, but i havent seen that many.

any audio forum recommendations?
Sensitivity shouldn't be that important. A few extra watts don't cost very much. Harmonic distortion is much much more important, plus a smooth frequency response. The numbers really mean nothing. Look at the graph.

For that kind of a price look at scan speak drivers.

The tweeter is a horn tweeter, I'm not sure about the physics but I remember reading that they aren't the best. Stick to a good dome tweeter. 50kHz is a little overkill. Most people can only hear 20kHz, so don't buy into excessive ratings like that. Check to see if the response is smooth up to 20kHz. Less peaks means simpler crossover.

Peaky response == << == Smooth response

Loud, high distortion == << == Low distortion

Read around http://www.diyaudio.com. If you really don't want to build something that's already been designed, start with something cheap so there's no great loss if it doesn't turn out great.
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11/2/10 at 10:19pm
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Sensitivity shouldn't be that important. A few extra watts don't cost very much. Harmonic distortion is much much more important, plus a smooth frequency response. The numbers really mean nothing. Look at the graph.

For that kind of a price look at scan speak drivers.

The tweeter is a horn tweeter, I'm not sure about the physics but I remember reading that they aren't the best. Stick to a good dome tweeter. 50kHz is a little overkill. Most people can only hear 20kHz, so don't buy into excessive ratings like that. Check to see if the response is smooth up to 20kHz. Less peaks means simpler crossover.

Peaky response == << == Smooth response

Loud, high distortion == << == Low distortion

Read around http://www.diyaudio.com. If you really don't want to build something that's already been designed, start with something cheap so there's no great loss if it doesn't turn out great.

hmm, true. ill probably star off using dayton drivers or so until my cabnet making gets better, thanks for the link
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11/2/10 at 10:32pm
i have a set of pioneers but im not allowed them on my pc they put out more bass then my logitech thx 2.1's ill take a photo now/find one. i am looking for a new amp tho. so im using a fail cheap sub box thing atm for power
they are pioneer CS-T2100-k


Edited by Th0m0_202 - 11/2/10 at 10:40pm
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11/2/10 at 10:37pm
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hmm, true. ill probably star off using dayton drivers or so until my cabnet making gets better, thanks for the link
Read more about speakers and such. Remember, not everyone is around to answer your questions. Also, that's a super tweeter right there(aka 5khz+), that won't do any good in a speaker system, especially no practical home audio speakers have a SPL of 98db @ 1m/1w throughout the whole freq. range. That's more like professional audio(PA systems).

Also, I do not know why do you consider cabinet working that important. IMO you need to work on learning about speakers first then moving on to cabinet. Yes, cabinet working is as equally as a driver and a system design, but really consider starting out with speakers. Just like computers, when you learn about it, you don't start out with how it looks, how sexy the case is, but you look into the internal parts(what makes it work).
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11/2/10 at 11:26pm
hey can you guys recommend me a new mid speaker? im pretty sure its 5.25in. some decided it would be funny and throw something at my speakers and it put a small rip in one of them. i dont know of a place that can re-cone it so i need to replace it. something kind of cheap and half decent? thank
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11/2/10 at 11:29pm
i got myself a set of polk Monitor 40s! does that count?
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11/2/10 at 11:33pm
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hey can you guys recommend me a new mid speaker? im pretty sure its 5.25in. some decided it would be funny and throw something at my speakers and it put a small rip in one of them. i dont know of a place that can re-cone it so i need to replace it. something kind of cheap and half decent? thank
If you don't worry much about a different sound signature and/or bad sounding speakers, then this is a great choice. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-071
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11/2/10 at 11:39pm
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hey can you guys recommend me a new mid speaker? im pretty sure its 5.25in. some decided it would be funny and throw something at my speakers and it put a small rip in one of them. i dont know of a place that can re-cone it so i need to replace it. something kind of cheap and half decent? thank
What speakers are they? Pics?

If it's just a small hole you can repair it with a piece of tissue paper soaked in glue/water. I've done it before. You can actually see where I repaired the mid of my speakers in the link on the members list.
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11/2/10 at 11:42pm
That reminds me, I still have to attempt to fix a pushed in dustcap on one of my mids .
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