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post #1811 of 3865
yeah that works xD wasnt being a prick just clarifying and I think the only speaker I've seen with a significant enough pole slant was a rockford p2.
Though rockfords are meh at best I like their high end component set but other than that they're average at best even their t2s get knocked down quick for their price.
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post #1812 of 3865
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yeah that works xD wasnt being a prick just clarifying and I think the only speaker I've seen with a significant enough pole slant was a rockford p2.
Though rockfords are meh at best I like their high end component set but other than that they're average at best even their t2s get knocked down quick for their price.
I'll admit straight up, the sound coming out of those are garbage. they suck

I'm still trying to figure out how this velodyne pushing out 120 db's will destroy my house and i can barely feel it, with under 3% distortion... but those crappy little rockfords pushing 90 db's killing themselves at 30 htz with like 30% distortion will hit you alot harder. makes no sense.
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post #1813 of 3865
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I'll admit straight up, the sound coming out of those are garbage. they suck

I'm still trying to figure out how this velodyne pushing out 120 db's will destroy my house and i can barely feel it, with under 3% distortion... but those crappy little rockfords pushing 90 db's killing themselves at 30 htz with like 30% distortion will hit you alot harder. makes no sense.
It's because of the amount of airspace in the room is so large. Higher frequencies will generally "hit you" harder than the lower ones will. The only time the really low notes are felt more than heard, is USUALLY in car audio applications. Not to say home audio can't be "felt", but its a lot more evident in a tiny little car than it is in a 10'x15' living room or 6'x10' bedroom.
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post #1814 of 3865
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It's because of the amount of airspace in the room is so large. Higher frequencies will generally "hit you" harder than the lower ones will. The only time the really low notes are felt more than heard, is USUALLY in car audio applications. Not to say home audio can't be "felt", but its a lot more evident in a tiny little car than it is in a 10'x15' living room or 6'x10' bedroom.
hmm, makes sense. in home theater applications, it hits alot harder than in music though. for example a 22 gig blu ray of iron man 2 playing, if one of those big ass robots smashes down on the ground, i'll feel it pretty decently
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post #1815 of 3865
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hmm, makes sense. in home theater applications, it hits alot harder than in music though. for example a 22 gig blu ray of iron man 2 playing, if one of those big ass robots smashes down on the ground, i'll feel it pretty decently
I'm going to assume here, that the music you're listening to just MIGHT not be "subwoofer" type material. Try out some Young Jeezy (Put On is a good one), Tech N9ne (most of the KOD album but I won't discourage any Tech N9ne music), maybe some Bass Mechaniks, Three 6 Mafia...there's a TON of music that should by all means hit hard on a decent subwoofer setup.

Just remember, subwoofers aren't all about the subsonic notes (below 30Hz). If your cutoff point is 20Hz, you should have a frequency response of 20-50Hz with your subwoofer. 25Hz cutoff, it should be 25-63Hz.

EDIT:
You've also got what's called "cabin gain" in car audio. This applies to home audio as well, but I'm unsure of the term for home use. The acoustics of your room WILL have an effect on what notes you hear and which ones you don't hear. Same with feeling the notes too.

And a different size and amount of drivers will ALSO impact that as well.
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post #1816 of 3865
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
I'm going to assume here, that the music you're listening to just MIGHT not be "subwoofer" type material. Try out some Young Jeezy (Put On is a good one), Tech N9ne (most of the KOD album but I won't discourage any Tech N9ne music), maybe some Bass Mechaniks, Three 6 Mafia...there's a TON of music that should by all means hit hard on a decent subwoofer setup.

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And a different size and amount of drivers will ALSO impact that as well.
ROFL ok i repent that statement. i can feel the bass from young jeezy on min volume lol. it literally made my dog pee itself.
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post #1817 of 3865
The tuning of the boxes is different that's why I have 2 different subs my 12 inch for higher bass 24> and my 15 for 27 and under.
My first subs were 2 40 dollar memphis pr 10s running off of 200 watts ina 4 cube box tuned at 33hz things could shake the entire house and i had the cops called on me constantly because of them they were my spl speakers my 15 was my sq speaker.
what youre looking for a is an sql setup
A loud system with decent pressure.
If you decide to build your own box I'm pretty sure we could find a way to get the output you're looking for from it.
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post #1818 of 3865
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The tuning of the boxes is different that's why I have 2 different subs my 12 inch for higher bass 24> and my 15 for 27 and under.
My first subs were 2 40 dollar memphis pr 10s running off of 200 watts ina 4 cube box tuned at 33hz things could shake the entire house and i had the cops called on me constantly because of them they were my spl speakers my 15 was my sq speaker.
what youre looking for a is an sql setup
A loud system with decent pressure.
If you decide to build your own box I'm pretty sure we could find a way to get the output you're looking for from it.
this thing has more than enough output, but it pops out which is annoying as hell
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post #1819 of 3865
Here's what I would do .

Get a good, a GOOD car audio 15" driver, maybe an 18...but I don't like huge drivers like that. Put it in a huge box with like a 30Hz tune or so (probably guessing 8 cuft or so ported). That would be a big enough box that it could reproduce the super low notes that you want, but the tune frequency is high enough, that you'd still get decent "kick" out of it, and decent higher bass response too (probably up to around 50-60Hz or so). Then just power the sucker with the Dayton 1000w rack amp.
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post #1820 of 3865
hes planning on the tc sounds lms5400 from waht I heard.
And at what frequencies is it popping out?(by this I assume you mean the voicecoil leaves the gap and you have to reseat the cone.
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