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post #2001 of 3866
Only using 3.1 for now - stuck my elt525s in the closet.

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post #2002 of 3866
Corey, do you HONESTLY want an 8.5 cuft subwoofer? I'm pretty confident that you could get by with a solid 15", with a significantly smaller encloser (say 5 cuft?), and the same amp, and still hit what you're wanting to hit with it.

I mean hell man, I hit down to 27Hz easy as pie in my car (which that's HARD to do in a car mind you), with a single 300w 12", in 1.30 cuft of space (ported).
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post #2003 of 3866
Flat out do research you're not going to accomplish anything with just blindly doing crap.
You are NOT going to get multiple octaves out of a single sub setup(hence why I have separate subs for different purposes).

Don't bother getting a sub that is a grand if you don't know what it is capable of.
the only box that would POSSIBLY produce your desired output (15-75) would be a bandpass box even then it would fall quite short and sound like ass doing it.

Your sub does NOT reproduce those frequencies smoothly I promise you this.

If you want to do this kind of stuff KNOW IT, and know what the terms mean, and how things are accomplished.
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post #2004 of 3866
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Originally Posted by Darkapoc View Post
Flat out do research you're not going to accomplish anything with just blindly doing crap.
You are NOT going to get multiple octaves out of a single sub setup(hence why I have separate subs for different purposes).

Don't bother getting a sub that is a grand if you don't know what it is capable of.
the only box that would POSSIBLY produce your desired output (15-75) would be a bandpass box even then it would fall quite short and sound like ass doing it.

Your sub does NOT reproduce those frequencies smoothly I promise you this.

If you want to do this kind of stuff KNOW IT, and know what the terms mean, and how things are accomplished.
I can tell you this much. I've personally heard one of those TC LMS Ultra 18's. I KNOW what that subwoofer is capable of (in a car environment). And that thing is an absolute MONSTER!!! If I could fit that beast in my little Prelude, and had a spare $900 to blow on a driver, plus another $1000 or so to blow on amplifiers to push it....I'd buy one .

The setup I heard, he was tuned to 25Hz, 9 cuft, slot ported, in I want to say it was a Jeep Cherokee. He had a good 5000w RMS pushing it (all Sundown Audio amplifiers, 4x SAZ1500's strapped). And my GOD did that thing hit every note down to 20Hz, from 50Hz. He had his subsonic at 25Hz, and his crossover at 40Hz.

Now granted, that's all he could hit. The rest of his speakers weren't up to the challenge.

But even with what Corey has in mind, he's NEVER going to be using the full potential of that subwoofer with a wimpy 1000w RMS. Nor is he EVER going to be happy if he's looking for 2-3 octaves worth of output cleanly from a subwoofer.
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post #2005 of 3866
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I can tell you this much. I've personally heard one of those TC LMS Ultra 18's. I KNOW what that subwoofer is capable of (in a car environment). And that thing is an absolute MONSTER!!! If I could fit that beast in my little Prelude, and had a spare $900 to blow on a driver, plus another $1000 or so to blow on amplifiers to push it....I'd buy one .

The setup I heard, he was tuned to 25Hz, 9 cuft, slot ported, in I want to say it was a Jeep Cherokee. He had a good 5000w RMS pushing it (all Sundown Audio amplifiers, 4x SAZ1500's strapped). And my GOD did that thing hit every note down to 20Hz, from 50Hz. He had his subsonic at 25Hz, and his crossover at 40Hz.

Now granted, that's all he could hit. The rest of his speakers weren't up to the challenge.

But even with what Corey has in mind, he's NEVER going to be using the full potential of that subwoofer with a wimpy 1000w RMS. Nor is he EVER going to be happy if he's looking for 2-3 octaves worth of output cleanly from a subwoofer.

Dude, I'm very happy with 20-50 Hz actually. I just didn't know subs weren't capable of more than 1.5 octaves.

I'd be happy with a 9 cu ft box and 1000 watts RMS going in my sub. would I be able to push more than 100 db's with 1000 watts RMS if i wanted? for MY use, I'd never do it, but I want that capability if I do ever set my sub up in a huge area to help my friends out with sound stuff ( I do this very often for a couple DJ friends) I still want damn good quality and very flat frequency response. my uses might push it up to 80 db in the loudest, but my house would start falling apart at that point and lights dimmed with my Velodyne.
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wharfedale xarus 1000 any good?

they sounded nice in the shop worth getting? :]
    
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Corey, I have a feeling that you are thinking about dB in the wrong sense. Have you tested it with a TermLab? If 80dB is shaking your house to hell and back...then you must have a really crappy house. Because my 1987 Honda Prelude, that I payed $300 for can handle 136dB with ease. Rattles a little bit in the trunk, but that's it.

I'm willing to bet you're pushing it a LOT harder than 80dB. Hell, my computer fans alone are 53dB. Just doing LIGHT listening is around 80.
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post #2008 of 3866
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Corey, I have a feeling that you are thinking about dB in the wrong sense. Have you tested it with a TermLab? If 80dB is shaking your house to hell and back...then you must have a really crappy house. Because my 1987 Honda Prelude, that I payed $300 for can handle 136dB with ease. Rattles a little bit in the trunk, but that's it.

I'm willing to bet you're pushing it a LOT harder than 80dB. Hell, my computer fans alone are 53dB. Just doing LIGHT listening is around 80.
dude, volume knob on my velodyne at 75%, windows volume at 30% and itunes at 30% would start making things fall off tables across the 11,500 sq ft house, a floor down. the iphone meter said 87db then I turned my BX5a's off and it said 70db. no idea what's up with that. my body wasnt feeling ANY bass at all aside on the floor until I stepped inside my closet. The acoustical energy coming from the woofer actually turned my closet 10 ft away into a bandpass, lol. Stepping inside the closet turned my body into mush and made my hair stand up while sounding 100% clean aside from my window and house walls rattling.
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post #2009 of 3866
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Dude, I'm very happy with 20-50 Hz actually. I just didn't know subs weren't capable of more than 1.5 octaves.

I'd be happy with a 9 cu ft box and 1000 watts RMS going in my sub. would I be able to push more than 100 db's with 1000 watts RMS if i wanted? for MY use, I'd never do it, but I want that capability if I do ever set my sub up in a huge area to help my friends out with sound stuff ( I do this very often for a couple DJ friends) I still want damn good quality and very flat frequency response. my uses might push it up to 80 db in the loudest, but my house would start falling apart at that point and lights dimmed with my Velodyne.
I think pioneer is right on this one 80db should not shake anything apart. And you should define huge area cause 1 18 is small for most venues i work with.
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dude, volume knob on my velodyne at 75%, windows volume at 30% and itunes at 30% would start making things fall off tables across the 11,500 sq ft house, a floor down. the iphone meter said 87db then I turned my BX5a's off and it said 70db. no idea what's up with that. my body wasnt feeling ANY bass at all aside on the floor until I stepped inside my closet. The acoustical energy coming from the woofer actually turned my closet 10 ft away into a bandpass, lol. Stepping inside the closet turned my body into mush and made my hair stand up while sounding 100% clean aside from my window and house walls rattling.
That's more than 80dB then . Sounds like closer to 130-140dB. Problem being, your iPhone meter isn't accurate. You need a TermLab to measure correctly. That's about $600 worth of hardware and software .
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