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Behringer A500?

Might even grab two and run them bridged mono if you were really ambitious. They are sort of a cult classic in the home theater scene - cheap, gobs of clean power as a monoblock, and totally fanless (plus sporting RCA inputs). I've worked with several on tour, and they can take a beating too.
160 watts x 2 @ 8 ohms RMS... yeah, that's pretty nice upgrade, RMS wise, I probably will go with that amp.

As for running them as monoblocks... I don't think I wanna... 500 watts RMS at 8 ohms bridged.... my VE-15's are rated 400watts peak... so I'd say their RMS power handling would be half that.

So I'd say one Behringer A500 amp is enough for them, right?

Oh wait a minute...

*reads manual.*

The 110 watts per channel, at 8ohms on my receiver, is continuous power output, at 0.09% total harmonic distortion.

150 watts per channel at 6 ohms, with 1% total harmonic distortion.

I have two pairs of 6 ohm speakers. Umm, how big of difference is 0.09% from 1% on total harmonic distortion? (I have no clue on what this part means.)
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160 watts x 2 @ 8 ohms RMS... yeah, that's pretty nice upgrade, RMS wise, I probably will go with that amp.

As for running them as monoblocks... I don't think I wanna... 500 watts RMS at 8 ohms bridged.... my VE-15's are rated 400watts peak... so I'd say their RMS power handling would be half that.

So I'd say one Behringer A500 amp is enough for them, right?

Oh wait a minute...

*reads manual.*

The 110 watts per channel, at 8ohms on my receiver, is continuous power output, at 0.09% total harmonic distortion.

150 watts per channel at 6 ohms, with 1% total harmonic distortion.

I have two pairs of 6 ohm speakers. Umm, how big of difference is 0.09% from 1% on total harmonic distortion? (I have no clue on what this part means.)
From an electrical standpoint, that is pretty significant. Likely to be something you hear? Almost definitely not. However, THD is generally a guide as to how the amplifier is rated - if they rate at a higher THD, they usually can make a weaker amp look like it is more powerful. A true high quality amplifier is one that can maintain reasonable THD when driving difficult loads.

I would not worry about overpowering the speakers - the RMS rating is the max the amp can put out if the signal it is being presented calls for it. In short, you would need a perfect line-level input of pink noise with the amp volume maxed to actually get the full power rating out to the speakers.
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check out the emotiva upa2
I'll check that out.

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From an electrical standpoint, that is pretty significant. Likely to be something you hear? Almost definitely not. However, THD is generally a guide as to how the amplifier is rated - if they rate at a higher THD, they usually can make a weaker amp look like it is more powerful. A true high quality amplifier is one that can maintain reasonable THD when driving difficult loads.

I would not worry about overpowering the speakers - the RMS rating is the max the amp can put out if the signal it is being presented calls for it. In short, you would need a perfect line-level input of pink noise with the amp volume maxed to actually get the full power rating out to the speakers.
Okay, I just was not sure about THD, but I think I understand it more now.

If I was to connect my AT-8 to my HT-10D subwoofer (Passive sub), the meter shows it as 2.2ohms... this would be too dangerous to my receiver's amp, right?
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I'll check that out.



Okay, I just was not sure about THD, but I think I understand it more now.

If I was to connect my AT-8 to my HT-10D subwoofer (Passive sub), the meter shows it as 2.2ohms... this would be too dangerous to my receiver's amp, right?
Most definitly. Here is an excelent article on the subject, if you'd like to read up a little as to why.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60386
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Most definitly. Here is an excelent article on the subject, if you'd like to read up a little as to why.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60386
... Well, that is a good read! Thanks for linking the article.

Yeah, I guess if I am to want to hook my passive subs up to my rear channels.... I'd have to get an external amp for them. Because I totally do not want to damage my receiver's amp. Lowest ohms I can go is 6ohms.

Currently I only have my four front speakers and Center speaker hooked up... my SAT-6S speakers are hooked up to Rear Back/Zone 2/Speaker B/Bi-amp outputs while the VE-15s are on the main front channels. So I know, already, that it's currently wired up safely.
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Cool, I did some research and yes I can use the Pre output on the amp and then I beleive run digital COAX to the sub.
No coax required.

See page 7 of the sub's manual.

http://www.monitoraudiousa.com/asset...ev4_010806.pdf
    
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No coax required.

See page 7 of the sub's manual.

http://www.monitoraudiousa.com/asset...ev4_010806.pdf
Ah, RCA. Thats perfect then because the 640A has the stereo pre out.
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Alright, amp question again, mainly on two amplifiers here.

One Chipp had told me about: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=248-749

One Soloz has told me about: http://www.emotiva.com/upa2.shtm

Okay, Behringer A500 verses Emotiva UPA2.


From what I see, the Behringer A500 is $100 less than the Emotiva and has a little bit more power.

As for the Emotiva UPA2, it looks better (In my opinion), the level control is in the back of the unit, not the front (Which makes it nice to keep the volume from being easily tampered with. Also appears to have lower THD than the Behringer A500.

So, what I'd like to know, is if the EMotiva UPA2 amp is worth $100 more, or am I better off with the Behringer? Both amps seem great to me, but I'm still learning about all this.

Personally I like the Emotiva UPA2 a little better.
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Alright, amp question again, mainly on two amplifiers here.

One Chipp had told me about: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=248-749

One Soloz has told me about: http://www.emotiva.com/upa2.shtm

Okay, Behringer A500 verses Emotiva UPA2.


From what I see, the Behringer A500 is $100 less than the Emotiva and has a little bit more power.

As for the Emotiva UPA2, it looks better (In my opinion), the level control is in the back of the unit, not the front (Which makes it nice to keep the volume from being easily tampered with. Also appears to have lower THD than the Behringer A500.

So, what I'd like to know, is if the EMotiva UPA2 amp is worth $100 more, or am I better off with the Behringer? Both amps seem great to me, but I'm still learning about all this.

Personally I like the Emotiva UPA2 a little better.
Same, i would go for the emotiva. Mostly because of looks lol!
No but seriously, not only does the emotiva look good, its good for speakers that require more power. RIght now im good with a TCA gizmo and Onix Reference 0.5s, but once i upgrade to some Neo's, i'll be needing a more powerful amp. This one would be perfect.
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Ooh! The UPA7 seems extremely nice!

http://emotiva.com/upa7.shtm

8 ohm rating:

• 125 watts RMS/channel into 8 ohms, all channels driven

• 7 channels - 8 ohm = 125 watts per channel

• 6 channels - 8 ohm = 135 watts per channel

• 5 channels - 8 ohm = 140 watts per channel

• 4 channels - 8 ohm = 150 watts per channel

• 3 channel - 8 ohm = 160 watts per channel

• 2 channel - 8 ohm = 170 watts per channel

• 1 channel - 8 ohm = 180 watts per channel

4 ohm rating:

• 7 channels - 4 ohm = 185 watts per channel

• 6 channels - 4 ohm = 200 watts per channel

• 5 channels - 4 ohm = 225 watts per channel

• 4 channels - 4 ohm = 235 watts per channel

• 3 channel - 4 ohm = 260 watts per channel

• 2 channel - 4 ohm = 280 watts per channel

• 1 channel - 4 ohm = 300 watts per channel


I think with that amp, my speakers will get a lot more power... I may go after that amp.

Especially with using 6 or 5 channels on it only...

With the volt meter, it reads all my speakers as 4 ohms.
Edited by Hoodcom - 3/12/09 at 12:03pm
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