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Hey guys I wrote a little review for my comparison of the Pioneer SP-FS52 and SP-EFS73 speakers.

Before I start, I will tell you about the setup that was used for all testing. I used a Marantz TT42P turntable and (at minimum) CD Quality lossless from my Lenovo Y40, carried HDMI out to the receiver. The towers were placed about 10 feet apart, greater than 6 feet from any walls to the sides, and about 3-foot from the wall behind. I sat dead center, about 10 foot from each speaker. Some toe-in was used to place the seating area in the tweeters' sweet spots. The speakers were crossed over to a Klipsch R-12SW subwoofer at 60Hz

A few months ago, a good friend of mine started raving about the reviews he had read about Andrew Jones' budget designs for Pioneer. At the time, I was running a pair of Polk Tsx220B bookshelf speakers out of a Denon AVR-S500BT. I loved this setup, but the price of the Pioneer Towers ($260/pair) tempted me, an I went up to my local Best Buy to purchase a pair.

I discovered that the FS52's were severely underrated VERY quickly. I also realized that my entry level Denon was struggling, so I did some shopping around and found a deal on a Marantz SR5009 receiver. After getting my taxes in, I went to a nearby Best Buy with a Magnolia and saw that they had Andrew Jones' Pioneer Elite offerings in stock. My receiver did not have the ability to take advantage of the Atmos drivers, but I thought I'd see how the SP-EFS73 towers compared to their budget brethren. The day after I brought the Elite towers home, my new receiver arrived, so I set everything up and began listening.

I saw a major improvement over the Denon+FS52 combo. As they broke in, I saw the benefit of the extra bass driver and the unified sound of the concentric mid driver/tweeter. However, I had not heard the SP-FS52's on the new Marantz, and I knew that they would see some improvement, so I hooked them up in the Zone 2 outputs, and began playing music while switching from set A to set B.

I was shocked to find that overall the FS52 sounded nearly as good as the EFS73. The first thing I noticed was that the EFS73 had a lower soundstage. By lower, I literally mean in elevation. It sounded as if the sound was coming from slightly below where the tweeters were located. The FS52 sounded a bit taller, but really it was just a difference. The next thing I noticed was that the EFS73 seemed more transparant. It seemed that the FS52 needed a little extra dampening, as some frequencies suffered from minimal spikes or cuts. This was only apparent when listening to a repetitive part of a song and switching back and forth. The biggest improvement was with voices. The EFS73 sounded more natural on some voices including RHCP's Anthony Kiedis and Bob Seger. There was just a bit more of that throaty, gritty sound. There was also a bit less of the high-midrange (which I prefer to be quite relaxed) which becomes apparent in higher female vocals.

In some ways, I actually preferred the FS52. When running them without a subwoofer, they seemed to extend better on the low end and showed a bit more impact. They also seemed to blend better with my subwoofer (Klipsch R-12SW), especially in songs like Sia's Elastic Heart, Bon Iver's Minnesota WI and Massive Attack's Intertia Creeps.

I also played a few movies and found that the higher soundstage of the FS52 placed voices more accurately. This wouldn't be an issue for either set if they were in a 5.1 setup, but it is worth noting.

If I were to pick between the sets, ignoring atmos and pricing, I would absolutely pick the Elites. They aren't better in every way, but they are the better speakers (as expected) overall by a good margin.

Overall, I don't see the EFS73 as underperforming or being overpriced (at about $1400/pair). I see the FS52 as being an INCREDIBLY good bargain. I believe that they sound better than the Klipsch Reference Towers, and even better than the Martin Logan Motion 20's. The Pioneer offerings might make more sense if a slightly nicer cabinet was used and the FS52's were priced around $600/pair. I have already packed up the EFS73, and they will be going back to Best Buy, as I cannot justify spending as much as I did on a relatively small upgrade.

I hope you all enjoyed the read!
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@phillyd Thank you for the the review. thumb.gif
    
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You have the wonderful techno speakers. Larger than your room, it can be make harmful to your ears.
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You have the wonderful techno speakers. Larger than your room, it can be make harmful to your ears.

Nice necro. biggrin.gif

On a more serious note, welcome to OCN. thumb.gif
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Wow forgot all about this thread lol, did just get a new (to me) receiver that has breathed new life into my Polk Monitor 40's (Pioneer VSX-520), had to order the remote for it but I didn't check to ensure it was in English
   
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Coming from China should have tipped you off with that remote. tongue.gif
    
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yeah but at least it works properly, just figured it out with good ole button mashing lol. Also couldn't beat the $15 price vs $53 from pioneer
   
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not sure how I feel about cheap remotes. I see some companies including Apple remotes or have the IR receiver but not remote like a BYOR policy meanwhile Emotiva includes a remote made out of machined aluminum built to last the apocalypse



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Here's the one I got for $15,
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wish I could find a replacement for my Rotel pre amp (the previous owner abused the hell out of it) I've had to repair it a couple of times (clean connections and replace a battery connection plate)

Also been debating on snagging another pair of speakers (debating between powered or passive) I was looking at some Kanto's, but been keeping an eye out for a decent deal on some good B&W bookshelf passives

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Here's the one I got for $15,
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wish I could find a replacement for my Rotel pre amp (the previous owner abused the hell out of it) I've had to repair it a couple of times (clean connections and replace a battery connection plate)

Also been debating on snagging another pair of speakers (debating between powered or passive) I was looking at some Kanto's, but been keeping an eye out for a decent deal on some good B&W bookshelf passives

B&W has great sound, but they're way too expensive for me. I'm sticking with my TEK speakers that suprisingly also sound very good.
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