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Here's a hypothetical -
Lets say Intel is stupid enough to not give Nv a license for i7 and they keep X58 and their other chipsets all proprietary. Nv would be in a really tough position since their only real money maker would be GPU's and their plans to create an x86 chip goes under. Then...Intel decides to go forward with Larabee and become another AMD-like business making chips, chipsets, GPU's and even adds a Hydra chip to their chipsets to make it even more attractive. So Intel becomes this mega hardware manufacturer and AMD continues to struggle against them in the CPU and chipset department and slowly it becomes very clear that they are going to be extremely over powered by Intel. Nv is sinking because their GPU's are competing against ATI AND Larabee...

Now lets say Nv does something radical. They want to continue with their plans to create an x86 chip...AMD has an x86 license...AMD needs a CPU that can really put a hurting on Intel...Nv surely has some resources AMD can use...AMD also has a pretty solid chipset. ATI and Nv are really good at making GPU's and can probably come up with a solution to Hydra without paying for a license from Intel.

What if AMD and Nv became partners and actually started working together to create CPU's, GPU's, and chipsets. You get a solid motherboard chipset from AMD, great GPU drivers from NV, great GPU products from ATI and Nv, and both of them working on a CPU together to come up with something we've never seen before.

I know it sounds a little far fetched but you gotta admit, something like that could really shake things up in the IT world.
How is it stupid for Intel denying nVidia a license to make chipsets? I'd more than prefer if all boards could be crossfire/SLI compatible, I find it slightly annoying nVidia cannot do what ATI is doing with using software instead of a piece of hardware like nVidia keeps using.
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Everything good until someone starts loosing money. This is Intel's way of trying to corner the market around their processors. They might just do it eventually, which is bad for us because it reduces the variety thus increasing the price on what ever they put out. So then well see 1,000 dollar MB to go with the 1,000 ridiculous priced processors.
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So anyone think this could be the economy downturn related?
Doubt it... these lawsuits take months to prep for and year(s) to settle. Besides, Intel has a decent cash reserve to ride out the downturn. This is really is a long-term move.
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This could turn it around for Intel. I see them becoming one stop shopping. Turning into late 1970s IBM. Making 3800 dollar pc's with linux on them. Kind of like a crappy version of intel/IBM and Dell all rolled into one getting their butt kicked by a cooperative world.
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X58 boards have to be sent to Nv to get SLI certified. Intel cannot do it themselves
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This could turn it around for Intel. I see them becoming one stop shopping. Turning into late 1970s IBM. Making 3800 dollar pc's with linux on them. Kind of like a crappy version of intel/IBM and Dell all rolled into one getting their butt kicked by a cooperative world.
Hmmmmm.... It's monopoly time!

Didn't Intel just invest a few billion in US plants? Does anyone find it suspicious that the lawsuit comes right after Intel pays off the government closes foreign facilities and invests in American soil?

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X58 boards have to be sent to Nv to get SLI certified. Intel cannot do it themselves
Just a note... X58 SLI certification is done by the individual motherboard manufacturer and not overall by Intel.
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only problem with that theory is that I think Nvidia hates AMD more than the alternative.
I don't think Nvidia "hate" AMD. It would be stupid to. AMD would welcome Nvidia chipsets supporting SLI with open arms.
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I wonder if Intel feels threatened that Nvidia would make a better chipset or if Intel just wants to hog the revenue to itself. With the move of the northbridge onto the die, including the PCIe controller on Intel's next chips, the only thing left of the chipset would be the southbridge, which isn't anywhere near as complex as the northbridge.
    
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I find it slightly annoying nVidia cannot do what ATI is doing with using software instead of a piece of hardware like nVidia keeps using.
I think a hardware solution to both crossfire and SLI would be a much better approach. This way ATI and Nv would not have to keep updating their drivers to create a profile for a particular game. We see it all the time when a new high profile game is released there is either a new driver release or hotfix. If SLI and crossfire was done in the hardware there would be a more universal impact of performance on every game. Something like what Lucid is creating with the Hydra chip (IMO) is a more logical approach to multi-gpu application.
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I don't think Nvidia "hate" AMD. It would be stupid to. AMD would welcome Nvidia chipsets supporting SLI with open arms.
Nvidia produces AM2+ SLI chipsets (980a).

I don't really know what Intel is thinking by doing this. They are alright for now, but they've already alienated themselves from the hardware manufacturers with the whole LGA 1156 disaster. Who is going to buy a motherboard that can't overclock? Instead Intel thinks it can force it's users to spend large amounts of money on an X58/Core i7.

They are abusing their market position, and I think that once Larrabee comes, and goes after it get's raped by ATI and nVidia, Intel is going to find themselves in a world of hurt. Once Core 2 dies off AMD will have cornered the sub $200 market, which makes up the vast majority of the sales, and Intel could be looking at a possible lack of SLI on their chipsets, further hurting them.

It won't kill them, since its freaking Intel, but it will certainly wound them, like Core 2/G80 did to AMD.
    
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