Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Dailytech]New Navy-funded Report Warns of War Robots Going "Terminator"
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Dailytech]New Navy-funded Report Warns of War Robots Going "Terminator" - Page 3

post #21 of 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetos316 View Post
It will come down to how the AI interprets ethics. Anyone remember the Animated X-Men series? It was Master Mold who said, "mutants are humans, so humans must be protected from themselves" when asked why it was taking over the human race and how it was designed to protect humans from mutants. The symbolism here is mutants to different people and it is already quite evident that people inherently destroy each other, so it is easy to see a highly intelligent AI going "Terminator" to wipe out potential threats.

It's also possible for the Matrix scenario where the AI becomes so advanced that it knows humans have no shot of winning.
well... we could save our selves but put us back into the stoneage. Launch several nukes into the UPPER UPPER atmosphere and EMP 'em all. Unfortunately the fallout would probably really suck and we'd be basically in the mid 1800s if we were lucky
post #22 of 31
Robots fighting would be sick!!! No human lives lost cept for the ones killed.
post #23 of 31
Until they realise they can just turn on us and stop fighting eachother.
post #24 of 31
Hm... robot massive take over. I remain incredibly skeptical. Current programmers have a hard time getting a robot to understand and interpret sensory information. Completely functional AI on that level seems more a work of fiction to me. The logistics of trying to "recreate" a logical personality based on little more then coded "true/false/if" scripting seems daunting to say the least. Then give that robot enough dexterity to be able to be more then a semi mobile fire arm with the tactical ability to make even basic strategical analysis and you will have created nothing short of a miracle. I think it is possible, but the coding for all that in one machine would be astronomical, the data alone would be at the very least gigabytes in size. Then, all that programming has to mesh up together well enough so the thing doesn't just run into trees, works well enough to do whatever the thing is coded for, yet some how be flawed in a minor way that does not impair motor or processing functions but does turn the full, deadly power on to all of man kind. These predictions coming at a time when we can even get a robot to reliably identify a trash can as a legitimate threat and take any sort of action.

Hm... I'll take two with my flying cars and a time machine please.
post #25 of 31
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mothergoose729 View Post
Hm... robot massive take over. I remain incredibly skeptical. Current programmers have a hard time getting a robot to understand and interpret sensory information. Completely functional AI on that level seems more a work of fiction to me. The logistics of trying to "recreate" a logical personality based on little more then coded "true/false/if" scripting seems daunting to say the least. Then give that robot enough dexterity to be able to be more then a semi mobile fire arm with the tactical ability to make even basic strategical analysis and you will have created nothing short of a miracle. I think it is possible, but the coding for all that in one machine would be astronomical, the data alone would be at the very least gigabytes in size. Then, all that programming has to mesh up together well enough so the thing doesn't just run into trees, works well enough to do whatever the thing is coded for, yet some how be flawed in a minor way that does not impair motor or processing functions but does turn the full, deadly power on to all of man kind. These predictions coming at a time when we can even get a robot to reliably identify a trash can as a legitimate threat and take any sort of action.

Hm... I'll take two with my flying cars and a time machine please.
People also said that humans weren't meant to fly or it was impossible to land a man on the moon. If you take a look at the exponential growth of technology, I'm sure we'll eventually be able to develop the AI capable of passing the Turing Test. Of course this doesn't mean that there definitely will be a robot takeover but I'm sure people will be able to figure out a way to achieve the high level of intelligence.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X2 5000+ BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+ Integrated HD3200 2x2GB OCZ DDR2 
Hard DriveMonitorPowerCase
Maxtor 40GB Samsung 2220WM 22" Antec Neo HE 550W Ultra Wizard 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X2 5000+ BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+ Integrated HD3200 2x2GB OCZ DDR2 
Hard DriveMonitorPowerCase
Maxtor 40GB Samsung 2220WM 22" Antec Neo HE 550W Ultra Wizard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #26 of 31
would need a lot of robot-mech-warrior's to take over humans.....



besides, as long as we don't develop robot war planes.....we can just high altitude bomb them with emp's......not nukes.....
First Build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450@3.60GHZ 1.21250V ASUS P5Q Deluxe EVGA GTX 280 SSC Mushkin XP ASCENT 4GB 2x2 w/ eVCI 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Intel X-25 SSD 160gb Barracuda 500gb Vista 64 LG W40 22" Zalman 850w 
CaseMouse
Antec 900 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
First Build
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450@3.60GHZ 1.21250V ASUS P5Q Deluxe EVGA GTX 280 SSC Mushkin XP ASCENT 4GB 2x2 w/ eVCI 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Intel X-25 SSD 160gb Barracuda 500gb Vista 64 LG W40 22" Zalman 850w 
CaseMouse
Antec 900 MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 31
Frankly I think we should just pick a game (something like Armed Assault, except modified to be seamless and the size of the Earth) and train players to be the best of the best and fight all our wars in massive campaigns all in a virtual world.

Oh, that removes the risk of death, you say?

No. We would hook up electronics to each player, and electrocute them if they die in the game. Then they'd take it seriously.



I can just see it now.

"HEY! That Russian is TOTALLY aimbotting! He just wasted half my squad! BAN H-zzzzthztztth."
Coming Soon...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2D E8400 C0 @ 3.6GHz Asus P5Q-E 4850x2 1GB 8GB OCZ 800MHz (4x2GB) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 500GB x 2 Vista Ultimate 64 26" LG LCD (1920x1200) Logitech G11 
PowerCaseMouse
OCZ GameXstreme 700w PSU Antec 900 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
Coming Soon...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2D E8400 C0 @ 3.6GHz Asus P5Q-E 4850x2 1GB 8GB OCZ 800MHz (4x2GB) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD 500GB x 2 Vista Ultimate 64 26" LG LCD (1920x1200) Logitech G11 
PowerCaseMouse
OCZ GameXstreme 700w PSU Antec 900 Logitech G5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #28 of 31
hmm i think giving them "ethical" programming is the reason they will go spaz.

just give soldiers nanosuits
T3h_Fap_Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 @ 3.2GHz FFFFF Gigabyte EP45-UD3P HD5770 1GB 2x2GB Corsair Dominator 1066MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung F3 1TB + WD 3200AAKS LG Super multi something Windows 7 Home Premium x64 BenQ 22" 1080p 40000DCR 5ms 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
crappy gigabyte 430W Antec Truepower Trio CM 690 (modded) Razer Diamondback 3G Flame Red 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus Omega Speed Edition 
  hide details  
Reply
T3h_Fap_Machine
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 @ 3.2GHz FFFFF Gigabyte EP45-UD3P HD5770 1GB 2x2GB Corsair Dominator 1066MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung F3 1TB + WD 3200AAKS LG Super multi something Windows 7 Home Premium x64 BenQ 22" 1080p 40000DCR 5ms 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
crappy gigabyte 430W Antec Truepower Trio CM 690 (modded) Razer Diamondback 3G Flame Red 
Mouse Pad
Razer Goliathus Omega Speed Edition 
  hide details  
Reply
post #29 of 31
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Berger View Post
would need a lot of robot-mech-warrior's to take over humans.....
Well, ever watch iRobot? Robots became an adopted way of life so that there were lots of them. All it took was an update from the mainframe to turn them against the humans. With the way things are progressing with having everything networked, more intelligent controls on cars (which will eventually lead to the removal of humans as drivers), it would seem like we're heading towards that path. Even if robots didn't shoot nukes at us, if all of the networked controlled devices of the future decided to stop functioning or not function the way they are supposed to, that would be a HUGE disruption of our lives. Imagine if all refrigerators, laundry machines, computers, cars, and most big electronics devices decided to stop functioning. Think of the damage that would cost to human life and way of life. A slow painful death is worse than a quick painless one!
Edited by Cheetos316 - 2/19/09 at 9:41am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X2 5000+ BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+ Integrated HD3200 2x2GB OCZ DDR2 
Hard DriveMonitorPowerCase
Maxtor 40GB Samsung 2220WM 22" Antec Neo HE 550W Ultra Wizard 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X2 5000+ BE Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+ Integrated HD3200 2x2GB OCZ DDR2 
Hard DriveMonitorPowerCase
Maxtor 40GB Samsung 2220WM 22" Antec Neo HE 550W Ultra Wizard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #30 of 31
I say we go back to swords, shields, magic, and epic armor..

But that's just my 2c.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6300 3.8Ghz 6-Core Asrock 990fx Extreme3 eVGA GeForce GTX650 1GB 1x8GB Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveCoolingOS
1TB WD Green STOCK lol Windows 8 64-bit 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6300 3.8Ghz 6-Core Asrock 990fx Extreme3 eVGA GeForce GTX650 1GB 1x8GB Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveCoolingOS
1TB WD Green STOCK lol Windows 8 64-bit 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Dailytech]New Navy-funded Report Warns of War Robots Going "Terminator"