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Windows is prone to attacks because it lets the user do what it wants without having to constantly use the command line. Sure linux is less prone to viruses, but it sacrifices usability for security.

If you're one of the people that thinks they need the OS to hold their hand for them, go ahead and use linux. Vista on it's own does not simply "get" viruses, and I'm confident enough in my own ability to feel safe.
Linux also sets the user to operate by default as a user and not as an administrator. Also, linux does not give unlimited access to a program after is has gained administrative privilegs.

I do not understand how you found linux to be a coddling operating system, and windows to be a full suite power house. I think many people would argue the opposite.

And when you can simply read and email and acquire a worm then use windows does just "get" viruses. For the most part a smart user can avoid viruses easily, and at this moment I don't even use an AV with windows because I am confident in all my downloads. Still, linux is far superior in the security aspects.
post #12 of 33
It would have been at least impressive if it were a USB flashdrive trojan, as those are the only viruses I ever come across these days. Otherwise meh.

Idiots who open e-mail attachments from untrusted sources deserve to receive a leaking vial of anthrax in the mail.

Idiots who let strangers use their computers deserve to have their cars jacked by strangers.
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[censored] YEAH, WINDOWS :3
post #14 of 33
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It would have been at least impressive if it were a USB flashdrive trojan, as those are the only viruses I ever come across these days. Otherwise meh.

Idiots who open e-mail attachments from untrusted sources deserve to receive a leaking vial of anthrax in the mail.

Idiots who let strangers use their computers deserve to have their cars jacked by strangers.
so true lolol...

it doesn't actually tell you how, and I like how the spell vruis.. oops i meen virus wrong...
    
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But let's quickly look at the reasons for this. First, it isn't really Microsoft's fault. It isn't that Windows is technically inferior, it's that the majority of the world runs on Windows. This fact alone is very attractive for any virus coder or exploiter. As a vrius writer, you'd want to attack the majority, not the minority.
Typical fallacy.Proven not to be the cause many, many times.

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Thirdly, why would a hacker waste time with this when all he has to do is create a fake RPM or DEB and trick someone into installing it.
It won't be that easy. Unless the package is signed, the user will be made damn known that the package might be a threat. In the even that (s)he would be dumb enough to actually go ahead with installing a DEB from warez.com, the person shouldn't even be using a computer in the first place (and his/her windows machine would be laden with more viruses than a biological warhead).
post #16 of 33
Actually any one who actually understands how Operating systems "operate", Will tell you windows is inferior and laughable compared to linux, or especially unix in security measures.

I just did.

Nice try though.
    
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I do not understand how you found linux to be a coddling operating system, and windows to be a full suite power house. I think many people would argue the opposite.

While the whole privileges and execution rights might technically sound like a good idea, its completely unnecessary. Linux operates on the principle that EVERY user and EVERY program is out to get it. In some cases, like in workplace environments this seems like a good idea, but from a computer literate person's perspective its bloody annoying and entirely unnecessary. Why would I try and destroy my own OS? Why would someone release a piece of software that ruins the OS, or more to the point, WHY would I download it?

Just because something is more secure doesn't make it better. Would you drive a car that forced you to turn the key in the ignition every time you wanted to open the door, shift gears, open the window or press the gas pedal?
    
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It all harkens back to a time of simplicity. It is all bit around the text based multiuser operating system unix, which is why it does all this. For the sake of security I think linux has a better system and yes I prefer it the way it is. It stops me from making mistakes, and it makes it damn near impossible for a virus or even another user to do anything terribly distructive to my operating system. Still it is a matter of perferance. I prefer an cautious operating system that gives me all the information, then a lazy one that doesn't want to confuse or annoy me like windows. I use the both of them, and recognize that linux is just far better about security. The whole administrative thing being just one among many reasons linux is so hard to infect.
post #19 of 33
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Linux operates on the principle that EVERY user and EVERY program is out to get it.
...Just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.....

While, yes, the root thing is redundant at times, I'd still rather have a simple and intuitive checkpoint system that makes sure I am who I am every so often over the "security" features in windows. But thats just me.
Edited by Bluescreen_Of_Death - 2/19/09 at 2:47pm
post #20 of 33
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While the whole privileges and execution rights might technically sound like a good idea, its completely unnecessary.
That's basically like saying that security of *nix operating systems are completely useless.

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Linux operates on the principle that EVERY user and EVERY program is out to get it. In some cases, like in workplace environments this seems like a good idea, but from a computer literate person's perspective its bloody annoying and entirely unnecessary.
Not quite. And while we're at it, I might as well say that UAC and most firewalls/AV programs for Windows are as - or even more - annoying than *nix with all this privileged jazz.

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Why would I try and destroy my own OS? Why would someone release a piece of software that ruins the OS, or more to the point, WHY would I download it?
Your first question only applies to blondes, your second question apparently didn't occur to coders of viruses/malware, and apparently it didn't occur to you that not all viruses are spread through "Want a virus? Try w32.partite free of charge here!" adverts
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