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ok, i just ran 3d on a samsung 3d tv with my gtx680 yesterday. The problem is that when i run at 1920x1080 in only gives a refresh rate of 23 or 24Hz under 3d settings in nvidia control panel which is extremely low( and unplayabble in games) and its capped there. Unless i choose XXXX x 720 resolution then it goes up to 60Hz.

1) Is there a way i can play full HD at 60hz on this samsung tv?

2) Is the 3d refresh rate problem related to the tv or software? i am using the latest 310.70 nvidia driver which got released recently.

Thanks for Help
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ok, i just ran 3d on a samsung 3d tv with my gtx680 yesterday. The problem is that when i run at 1920x1080 in only gives a refresh rate of 23 or 24Hz under 3d settings in nvidia control panel which is extremely low( and unplayabble in games) and its capped there. Unless i choose XXXX x 720 resolution then it goes up to 60Hz.
1) Is there a way i can play full HD at 60hz on this samsung tv?
2) Is the 3d refresh rate problem related to the tv or software? i am using the latest 310.70 nvidia driver which got released recently.
Thanks for Help
The problem is hardware related. It is the limitations of HDMI in the 3dTV. The most you be able to achieve is 1080p@24hz or 720p@60hz.

NOW IF your Sammy supports CB format there is a way to increase 1080p to 60hz. IARDAS achieved that on his 3dTV. You can shoot him a PM to ask.
http://www.overclock.net/u/248718/iardas
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what is the difference when running it on a 3d pc screen? will i be able to pick up the full 60hz on a pc screen? i also noticed that i'm not using a 3d HDMI cable. Does that have a effect on the option of 60Hz not being available or will it just affect the image quality. Thanks!
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There is no difference between a 3d pc display or a 3dtv. What limits your 1080p resolution to 24Hz is the HDMI interface of your 3dtv. The bandwidth of hdmi is limited to accommodate a max of 24Hz at 1080p or 60Hz at 720p. There is no such thing 3d hdmi cable.
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ok, and when searching for a 3d tv capable of 60Hz 3D at 1920x1080, what are the specs to look out for ? i know if i walk into a shop here where i stay they will point me out to a random 3d TV, sigh!
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what is the difference when running it on a 3d pc screen? will i be able to pick up the full 60hz on a pc screen? i also noticed that i'm not using a 3d HDMI cable. Does that have a effect on the option of 60Hz not being available or will it just affect the image quality. Thanks!
No the cable doesnt matter. It is not possible unless you have CB format on your HDTV. For 3d i recommend a 3d Vision 2 monitor with an Nvidia GPU. You will have 1080p @ 60fps and they have the best 3d picture quality available with the least possible 3d ghosting/crosstalk. Plus you can run your games you want in 2d at 1080p @120hz, which is gorgeous also, and what i use for competitive multiplayer games. No TV can display 1080p @ 120hz (120fps).
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when i first read this tried to do in windows 8...here my experiences

1-)using original windows 8 pro edition and 310.70 nvidia driver...there was no box "select when the display is in 3d mode / Always" so i used registery fix which forces monitor to be always in 3d mode(checked everywhere noone has that box..some claims they removed that option after 301.xx)

2-) restarted

3-)login screen was flickering as ppl told so it was normal ..now my monitor is always in 3d mod(checked monitor self menu and it says in red "3D-Mode"

4-)everything was delightful, fixed the contrast to 92 and there was CRT feeling thnx for that smile.gif

5-)For some reason my razer naga mouse's sidebuttons stopped working and now they are 1 2 3 ...

6-)spent too much time to fix my mouse sidebuttons and gave up ...made a clean format and installed win7 ultimate 64 bit edition

7-)installed everything i need..sidebuttons are fine now and now was time to setup 3d...310.70 driver

8-)after 3d setup suddenly there was "Select when the display is in 3d mode / always" button

dunno what happened why to button is open available now and dont need registery fix

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Hey there,

Great thread, I just finished reading the whole thing which took a while. I'll be back to join around Haswell time, in style.
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when i first read this tried to do in windows 8...here my experiences
1-)using original windows 8 pro edition and 310.70 nvidia driver...there was no box "select when the display is in 3d mode / Always" so i used registery fix which forces monitor to be always in 3d mode(checked everywhere noone has that box..some claims they removed that option after 301.xx)
2-) restarted
3-)login screen was flickering as ppl told so it was normal ..now my monitor is always in 3d mod(checked monitor self menu and it says in red "3D-Mode"
4-)everything was delightful, fixed the contrast to 92 and there was CRT feeling thnx for that smile.gif
5-)For some reason my razer naga mouse's sidebuttons stopped working and now they are 1 2 3 ...
6-)spent too much time to fix my mouse sidebuttons and gave up ...made a clean format and installed win7 ultimate 64 bit edition
7-)installed everything i need..sidebuttons are fine now and now was time to setup 3d...310.70 driver
8-)after 3d setup suddenly there was "Select when the display is in 3d mode / always" button
dunno what happened why to button is open available now and dont need registery fix
]
I think Win8 was your problem. I went back to 7 myself due to many issues. I will come back to 8 when it is further developed.

Glad you got the light boost hack working. To get the true "No Motion Blur" you must maintain 120fps. Now some games still look vary good when dipping below that FPS mark and some won't. It varies per game.
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Hey there,
Great thread, I just finished reading the whole thing which took a while. I'll be back to join around Haswell time, in style.

We will be here. Welcome to OCN. thumb.gif
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I did more definitive testing with the "Zero Motion Blur" effect using Lightboost for 2d mode. Here are the results.

Pixel Persistence Analyzer (PixPerAn) Readability Test Results 120hz: Wow just wow! Speechless.........

-Highest readable tempo without Lightboost (LB) was 7 and even that was blurry and my eyes where straining to read it.

-Highest readable tempo with Lightboost was 30 which is max speed on test (Only could read the first 5 letters) my eyeballs just can't move that fast

So when i first turned on LB and tried the last failed tempo of 8 again (which was blurry non-sense w/o LB)and was shocked how crystal clear it was. Kept going up until i reached tempo 24 and completed the test successfully. But at this crazy fast tempo my head was hurting at all the right to left motion that my head was doing to keep up with this speed. Next I turned it up to the insane tempo of 30. The speed is so fast my eyes have trouble keeping up with the letters, but when i finally train my eyes to lock on the letters THEY WERE CLEAR! I could only get the first 5 letter out and correct, due to the insane speed of tempo 30. Maybe a trained eye like Vega can get out all the letters, but for me to be able to read 5 letters states that yes this LB hack makes my VG278H monitors have Zero perceivable motion blur.

Anyone that has done the hack must download to see the results. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/PixPerAn.shtml

On one side note there was a minimal ghosting effect with the letters. Similar to the 3d ghosting effect on high different contrast colors. The test letters are black print, the test background is white, and the ghost behind it was a very light grey/white. The ghosting was not a blur or trailing effect it was a perfect letter, just extremely light and very hard to see. The only ghost letter that was visible was the last in the grouping as im guessing the others ghost into the other black letters. But in no way did the ghosting effect the readability of the extremely fast moving letters.
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