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wait wait I'm not going 3d surround! Just regular 3d
Will my C2D do it?? I mean, not like 80 fps with 4 FAA and 16AAF and stuff, just like high settings with middle resolution, running with decent frame rates!
My advice is this..... buy a gtx 480 from Amazon (make sure its from Amazon, not some 3rd party s**t).

Try to run those 3 games (gta 4, jc2, bfbc2) on your dual core system with your 480. Record what fps you get. Then cut that number in half, this number will be the fps you will get in 3D. Then you judge for yourself, are these fps's good enough?

You have 30 days to return your s**t from Amazon if you don't like it.
    
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O well I have been researching and found that buying a new CPU is out of question. What I can do is overclock my E7400 further. If I get it to 3.8 GHz, will that ease things a little?
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O well I have been researching and found that buying a new CPU is out of question. What I can do is overclock my E7400 further. If I get it to 3.8 GHz, will that ease things a little?
I would hold off till you can get a decent machine before buying 3D Vision. Keep in mind the video card has to render ea. frame twice. Most people leave the NV CP at default values, so the default render ahead limit is 3 making it 6 when 3D is enabled. A C2D just can't handle the bandwidth. I had an X2 7750@3.5ghz (Kuma) and it was horrible trying to play in 3D. I had to set all in-game settings to Low quality and lowest res possible. Really not fun, nothing but a slide show...
    
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I would hold off till you can get a decent machine before buying 3D Vision. Keep in mind the video card has to render ea. frame twice. Most people leave the NV CP at default values, so the default render ahead limit is 3 making it 6 when 3D is enabled. A C2D just can't handle the bandwidth. I had an X2 7750@3.5ghz (Kuma) and it was horrible trying to play in 3D. I had to set all in-game settings to Low quality and lowest res possible. Really not fun, nothing but a slide show...
That was with your 480 GTX ???
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That was with your 480 GTX ???
No it was with a 9800GTX+, which is basically your GTS250, just rebranded...
Specs below are taken from Newegg...


Brand= EVGA
Model= 512-P3-N871-AR
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 9800 GTX+
Core Clock= 738MHz
Shader Clock= 1836MHz
Stream Processors= 128
Effective Memory Clock= 2200MHz
Memory Size= 512MB
Memory Interface= 256-bit
Memory Type= DDR3


Brand= EVGA
Model= 512-P3-1153-TR
Interface= PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU= GeForce GTS 250
Core Clock= 738MHz
Shader Clock= 1782MHz
Stream Processors= 128
Effective Memory Clock= 2200MHz
Memory Size= 512MB
Memory Interface= 256-bit
Memory Type= DDR3


With my sig rig I can play BC2 with High detail settings DX10, w/ 4XAA, 4XAF and still keep an average of 70-80FPS. You will be lucky if you can have playable frame rates with a C2D and a GTS250 with low res and settings...

I would do the upgrades to my PC first and then buy 3D Vision later when I know my PC could handle it. I did this backwards and bought a pre-built PC just for 3D Vision only to be dissapointed later with the performance. How are your FPS in games now? You can basically cut that in half like others have said already.
    
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Well I am getting a 470GTX later this month, so this is why I am worried about the processor I think the GPU will be fine

It really depends on the game. With the high settings minus AA and AF I get average 30-40 FPS. It seems reasonable to say that I would have to lower all the settings to get playable framerates with 3d vision.

I will get the 3D vision set anyway, and if I have to upgrade my system I will do it as needed. If the C2D can't handle it paired up with a GTX470, I will try to raise it's overclock. If even with that I can't get playable framerates, I am considering buying this:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 S775 2,50GHz FSB1333 4MB - BX80580Q8300SLB5W
or this
Processador Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 S775 2,66GHz FSB1333 6MB - BX80580Q9400SLB6B

There is a slight difference, but considerable for my available budget, between the prices, so which one is recommended? Will they perform better than my C2D @3.2? Because their stock clocks are much lower!

Also, how do I know if these processors will fit in my MOBo?
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Well I am getting a 470GTX later this month, so this is why I am worried about the processor I think the GPU will be fine

It really depends on the game. With the high settings minus AA and AF I get average 30-40 FPS. It seems reasonable to say that I would have to lower all the settings to get playable framerates with 3d vision.

I will get the 3D vision set anyway, and if I have to upgrade my system I will do it as needed. If the C2D can't handle it paired up with a GTX470, I will try to raise it's overclock. If even with that I can't get playable framerates, I am considering buying this:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 S775 2,50GHz FSB1333 4MB - BX80580Q8300SLB5W
or this
Processador Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 S775 2,66GHz FSB1333 6MB - BX80580Q9400SLB6B

There is a slight difference, but considerable for my available budget, between the prices, so which one is recommended? Will they perform better than my C2D @3.2? Because their stock clocks are much lower!

Also, how do I know if these processors will fit in my MOBo?
If you are getting a 470 later this month try it out with the C2D and see what happens. You might be good with certain games but others might require a quad core. I would get the Q9400 if you can budget it. It has more cache...

You will know by the socket type. ex; LGA 1156, LGA 1366, LGA 775...
Not really up to date on Intel, but I think the C2D is a LGA 775, not 100% sure though...

Edit:
Your mobo is a 775 socket, so any of these CPU's will do...
Edited by Seanicy - 7/12/10 at 8:26am
    
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Sorry for my noobice, but how does cache affect performance? Also, how will the C2Q perform better than my C2D if it has lower clock speed???
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post #269 of 3476
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Sorry for my noobice, but how does cache affect performance? Also, how will the C2Q perform better than my C2D if it has lower clock speed???
Google "CPU cache vs clock speed"
With 3D Vision you have to keep in mind you are caching more than before so more cache would help here. If you are using a single or double threaded app then a higher clocked C2D would shine. We can go back and forth about this but it's all about what you are going to do with this PC. If you plan to game and want to max games out in the settings department then a quad is needed. You can try with your C2D and see for yourself. I've done it with a dual core just not a dual and a 470. Could be possible that the games you play can be played without sacrificing quality...
    
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The 3D vision video player needs some work on the codecs. For some reason, despite documentation to the contrary, MP4 doesn't work for me. The youtube downloaders I've found that can select the high-res versions of videos only output them in MP4. Seems stupid not to use the WMP codec API to have access to all of the codecs installed on the system.
Sometimes you must manually set the mp4 settings. Complete instructions:
http://www.hotgirlsin3d.com/2010/07/...vision-player/
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