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Originally Posted by Swolern View Post

I did more definitive testing with the "Zero Motion Blur" effect using Lightboost for 2d mode. Here are the results.
Pixel Persistence Analyzer (PixPerAn) Readability Test Results 120hz: Wow just wow! Speechless.........
-Highest readable tempo without Lightboost (LB) was 7 and even that was blurry and my eyes where straining to read it.
-Highest readable tempo with Lightboost was 30 which is max speed on test (Only could read the first 5 letters) my eyeballs just can't move that fast
So when i first turned on LB and tried the last failed tempo of 8 again (which was blurry non-sense w/o LB)and was shocked how crystal clear it was. Kept going up until i reached tempo 24 and completed the test successfully. But at this crazy fast tempo my head was hurting at all the right to left motion that my head was doing to keep up with this speed. Next I turned it up to the insane tempo of 30. The speed is so fast my eyes have trouble keeping up with the letters, but when i finally train my eyes to lock on the letters THEY WERE CLEAR! I could only get the first 5 letter out and correct, due to the insane speed of tempo 30. Maybe a trained eye like Vega can get out all the letters, but for me to be able to read 5 letters states that yes this LB hack makes my VG278H monitors have Zero perceivable motion blur.
Anyone that has done the hack must download to see the results. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/PixPerAn.shtml
On one side note there was a minimal ghosting effect with the letters. Similar to the 3d ghosting effect on high different contrast colors. The test letters are black print, the test background is white, and the ghost behind it was a very light grey/white. The ghosting was not a blur or trailing effect it was a perfect letter, just extremely light and very hard to see. The only ghost letter that was visible was the last in the grouping as im guessing the others ghost into the other black letters. But in no way did the ghosting effect the readability of the extremely fast moving letters.

Are these observations of the hack good or bad?
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I don't want to steal a question directed at Swolern but I found this hack utterly useless. I guess only because I'm running nVidia surround.
To benefit from this hack you need to be running about 100+ fps. Unfortunately my 2 GTX 680's can't pump the games I want to play at those types of frames. I guess I might check back when the 700 series comes out.
I know there are many people happy with this hack's performance, so please don't let my experience put you off testing it. smile.gif
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Are these observations of the hack good or bad?
For me the results have been nothing short of spectacular. The clarity of motion with 2d games has been a night and day difference. This level of no motion blur has never been achieved before on a LCD monitor. Only older CRT monitor were able to achieve this type of motion clarity. But CRT is an outdated technology that had its own list of problems.

This type of motion clarity not only looks absolutely gorgeous, but gives you an advantage with online multiplayer shooters. The clearer motion lets you identify enemies much quicker on the move without having to stop and identify target then shoot. Those milliseconds it takes to do that means a lot in competative gaming.

Now to get the Lightboost 2d mode to work at its full potential you need to keep a constant fps at or above your set refresh rate, which is usually 120fps in games.

Emett a couple tips. To achieve this constant FPS of your set refresh rate many new games settings will need to be lowered. Also you can also set the VG278Hs to a refresh rate of 100hz and you can try to lock into that rate with settings adjustment. Many games will need different adjustments as they behave differently. BF3 looks choppy as hell unless FPS sits right at 120, and even there it is not butter smooth as other games. BF3 has many issues and not good game to test this on. Now i am currently just using 670 2-way sli due to 4-way issues. MOHW ultra FXAA SSAO 5760x1080 runs about 80-100fps but looks butter smooth with LB enabled 120hz. Even smoother than BF3 @ 120. A great game for you see the extreme motion clarity of 2d LB with is Counter Strike GO. With my 670sli OC'd with max settings Vsync & triple buffering enabled I stay locked at 120fps and 2-way GPU use is 50-80% at 5760x1080 so you should have no problems also.

I also have to increase contrast to 92 and keep LB at max to fight against the lower brightness of LB enabled. I actually like the brightness level of 2d Lightboost with games, but my room is dark when gaming.

Also the minor ghosting issue I spoke of before is only visually noticeable with the scrutinizing tests I was using to test motion clarity. I have not noticed any of these effects during gaming.
Edited by Swolern - 12/22/12 at 10:35am
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No the cable doesnt matter. It is not possible unless you have CB format on your HDTV. For 3d i recommend a 3d Vision 2 monitor with an Nvidia GPU. You will have 1080p @ 60fps and they have the best 3d picture quality available with the least possible 3d ghosting/crosstalk. Plus you can run your games you want in 2d at 1080p @120hz, which is gorgeous also, and what i use for competitive multiplayer games. No TV can display 1080p @ 120hz (120fps).
Thanks! I now know what to look out for when getting 3d screen. Which 27inch is best 3d screen to use for nvidia at the moment judging from personal experience vs product specifications?
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Thanks! I now know what to look out for when getting 3d screen. Which 27inch is best 3d screen to use for nvidia at the moment judging from personal experience vs product specifications?
The VG278H or VG278HE. The H version goes up to 120hz (120fps 2d)and comes with all accessories need for 3d vision. The HE version goes up to 144hz, but does not come with 3d accessories. You will need to buy the 3d Vision 2 kit separate to get 3d working.
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You guys see that even the Queen is into 3d. Her Christmas message this year is in 3d and will no doubt be on YouTube soon.
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Can anyone shed some light on how/why I get about the same GPU use (60-70%) in BF3 with 3D vision on or off? Turning 3D vision on seems to do nothing but cut my frame rates in half without loading my GPUs any harder. What gives? Is this how CPU bottlenecks work with 3D vision?
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Can anyone shed some light on how/why I get about the same GPU use (60-70%) in BF3 with 3D vision on or off? Turning 3D vision on seems to do nothing but cut my frame rates in half without loading my GPUs any harder. What gives? Is this how CPU bottlenecks work with 3D vision?
3d vision is actually displaying the same framerate from the monitor as 2d mode in most games. Only difference is your 3d glasses split up each other frame to opposite eyes, basically cutting your FPS in half in most games for a perceived lower fps.

Were you getting higher gpu utilization at a previous time in BF3 with this PC?

It sounds like a CPU bottleneck, especially for online mp, but BF3 has been having many issues lately also.
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Just got a BenQ XL2420TX and good lord 120hz is the shiz. Tried 3d in a few games, BF3, BO2, and Far Cry 3 (with helix mod). I'll get a picture up later this afternoon, but based on your experiences, what are the best games to play in 3d? Steam holiday sale is calling my name... thumb.gif

Also could someone give me a brief rundown on the depth/convergence things? I recall reading it somewhere earlier in the thread but I didn't retain the information.
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3d vision is actually displaying the same framerate from the monitor as 2d mode in most games. Only difference is your 3d glasses split up each other frame to opposite eyes, basically cutting your FPS in half in most games for a perceived lower fps.
Were you getting higher gpu utilization at a previous time in BF3 with this PC?
It sounds like a CPU bottleneck, especially for online mp, but BF3 has been having many issues lately also.

For whatever reason I was thinking enabling 3D vision caused everything to render twice and that it would then be able to use the extra GPU power to hit 60fps without needing the CPU power for what would be 120fps in 2D... Makes sense that it just splits up the frames that are already rendered and the GPU use stays the same.
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