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GRRRR!!!! I cant get 3.5ghz to pass prime 95 blend test! I ran OCCT on linpack again for 10hrs and passed,played crysis for 5hrs problem free. What the hell is prime 95 testing that occt is not?! I think my cpu just dont like prime,i think it saying...**** this, i dont like this program im gonna crash!! I named my PC Mad Max..maybe hes mad at me?
memory???
NB perhaps?
one or the other, most likely


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It's very possible that with the newer chips it doesn't matter so much. You must remember I'm coming from 939's, where steppings usually do indicate a chips typical OC potential. Such as the LCB*E steppings typically overclock A LOT better than other steppings because they're newer chips and don't require as much voltage. (I can pull 500MHz from my opty @ stock voltage)

At any rate, thanks for that tidbit of info Ocre. You guys will be seeing me more around these here parts once I get my rig put together. Man I'm lazy

My 720 is a 0910 if it matters. If it unlocks and is stable, great, if not I'm not really too concerned about it.
Well this topic has been up for a while, steppings didnt matter then cause there wasnt a variety. AMD may release better versions of the 720 most likely more efficient steppings. But with the 740 around the corner, i just dont know the future of the 720. The arent gonna have two 3 core BE that close to each other. Probably when the 740 comes out, they may phase out the 720BE completely. Who knows!
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GRRRR!!!! I cant get 3.5ghz to pass prime 95 blend test! I ran OCCT on linpack again for 10hrs and passed,played crysis for 5hrs problem free. What the hell is prime 95 testing that occt is not?! I think my cpu just dont like prime,i think it saying...**** this, i dont like this program im gonna crash!! I named my PC Mad Max..maybe hes mad at me?
I think blend is more of a memory stress test. So download HCI Memtest and run it for a while, if it doesnt report errors then I think the problem isnt your memory.
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@Lbear, i pitay you and your chip. lol. its ok, if it passes OCCT for 10hrs, then forget it, its STABLE. lol.
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@Lbear, i pitay you and your chip. lol. its ok, if it passes OCCT for 10hrs, then forget it, its STABLE. lol.
come to think of it, i pass 50 linpack runs at 3.6 Fthis, im running at 3.6
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Once again new personal SuperPi 1M record on 720BE

My last record was around 16.7s and 16.8s so now I managed to get 16,443s, on air of course. Ran it at 4158MHz for CPU and 3GHz for NB to get the record and got to desktop at 4173MHz.

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@Lbear, i pitay you and your chip. lol. its ok, if it passes OCCT for 10hrs, then forget it, its STABLE. lol.
So its ok to pass one test and not the other(not including IBT)? On many fourms i searched i always read "if u cant pass blend your system is not stable," then i have read "Occt is more stress than prime 95".

my memory is fine,i used memtest and ran it for 4 hrs no errors
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So its ok to pass one test and not the other(not including IBT)? On many fourms i searched i always read "if u cant pass blend your system is not stable," then i have read "Occt is more stress than prime 95".

my memory is fine,i used memtest and ran it for 4 hrs no errors
So then its probably your NB. I'd suggest you to OC only CPU first. Then when you find the sweetspot for CPU you can start increasing NB and memory multipliers. Isolation is the key to success
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Once we were told that steppings could be helpful in knowing a chips capabilities before testing it. There is a lot of data on older chips collected all over the net. I just think it doesnt amount to much, i seen ppl sell chips at a higher price just because of the stepping, then those same chips turn out to be duds. Not OCing worth a crap. Although i dont say its useless, I myself dont care too much what they say. Steppings dont guarantee squat. And if I didnt see sites saying stuff like, with xxxx steppings your guaranteed 4ghz, or whatever, then it would be a different story. At least for me, stepping are overrated in OCing.

But steppings do identify more then OCing potential, and they can be quit useful to ppl. Often i just see misuse, kinda like all the ppl who have 0904 720s and wonder why they cant unlock. I have never got a 0904 that did myself. I had a lot of luck out of 0906 batch, but that doesnt mean anything, I might have been the only person who did, and that is perfectly plausible.

Wills is in charge here, he may or may not share my feelings on it, but if we started, there is gonna be a lot of blank steppings in the chart.
You are correct that a chip's stepping doesn't guarantee squat but by getting chips with "Good" steppings, you do increase the chance of getting a good one.
I also have a few 939 chips with different steppings and my X2 4200 will go over 3.4GHz with the LCBQE stepping and I have a LCB9E 4000+ San Diego that will also top 3.4GHz. The older 939 LCBBE stepping chips I have might hit 3.2GHz if I really push them but the 939 LCB*E chips consistently clock higher with better stability overall. However I will admit I had one LCB9E 4000+ that woudn't do over 2.9GHz to save it's life proving that even a chip with a good stepping is no guarantee.

As to charts that can show a trend on steppings, check this link and you'll see how useful such a chart CAN be if it's based on real-world results.
This is based on Socket A and it has proven to be a fairly accurate source of info on what chips have the best chance of being good clockers. As to what I have personally, my chips do follow this chart closely related to OC'ing potential with only one exception in the bunch. This chart is extensive and has alot of info within the topic itself on this.

Again as it's been pointed out, steppings do not guarantee anything, rather they do give an indication of what chips will have the best chance of being a good clocker or as it's been said before, "Your mileage will vary" with any given chip.
http://classicplatforms.com/forum/vi...hp?f=71&t=2005
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So then its probably your NB. I'd suggest you to OC only CPU first. Then when you find the sweetspot for CPU you can start increasing NB and memory multipliers. Isolation is the key to success
are u referring to the NB v.,CPU/NB v. or CPU/NB frequency? What do u man by memory multipliers? dont see anything like that im my bios unless its the dram frequency or timings
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As to charts that can show a trend on steppings, check this link and you'll see how useful such a chart CAN be if it's based on real-world results.
This is based on Socket A and it has proven to be a fairly accurate source of info on what chips have the best chance of being good clockers. As to what I have personally, my chips do follow this chart closely related to OC'ing potential with only one exception in the bunch. This chart is extensive and has alot of info within the topic itself on this.

Again as it's been pointed out, steppings do not guarantee anything, rather they do give an indication of what chips will have the best chance of being a good clocker or as it's been said before, "Your mileage will vary" with any given chip.
http://classicplatforms.com/forum/vi...hp?f=71&t=2005
I like a lot of data, really i do but.....

Are the steppings cross relevant from say a 705, 710, 720?
I wonder if they will go together like that or not.

i figure the 720 will be replaced by the 740, or maybe the 710 will be dropped and the 720 wont be a BE. CPUs models are changing so much faster then they used to, kinda getting to be like the GPU race, hehe.

who knows, there is some good data collected. but this is just a club list for all 700 series, really. But it is getting to be more and more steppings, And with each change, something has changed in the chip design, no matter how small. Just wonder whats gonna happen after the 740 hits, i am sure things will change a bit. Gonna be a lot of different chips plus steppings. its not just a single cpu chart, so the data is gonna be all over the place
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