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Woah!? SO Q6600 is really 90 TJmax and not 100?
You tell us, we only know what the Tj Target is. Tj Max will differ between CPUs and even cores of the same CPU.
    
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I have Air Conditioner but I seldom turn it on. I just use tower fan normally.
The temp can go 5 °C lower if I turn on the air con at 20 °C.
Yes, that's the result of Small FFTs test in Prime95.
You're tough. I use the air conditioning almost all the time in the summer. lol

But Small FFTs FTW!!! I'm glad you knew to choose that test.
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Originally Posted by DorkSterr View Post
Woah!? SO Q6600 is really 90 TJmax and not 100?
Not every Q6600 has a Tj. Max of 90°C. Generally speaking, both the B2 and the G0 should have a 90°C Tj. Max, but some have 91, some have 92, some 93, 94, etc. It just depends. So, calibration is necessary to get the most accurate readings possible, even though it'll never be accurate.
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Originally Posted by Bima Sylirian View Post
Depends on the stepping. Which one is yours?
From the chart and this sheet, B2 = 80 °C and G0 = 90 °C
Unfortunately, Intel's data entry person who created that made a typo and Intel corrected it and said that the B2 is also 90°C. But the problem is that it's not always exactly 90°C. It could be 91, or even 100°C. But rest assured, you can calibrate your software to get the best readings possible for your particular CPU - even core by core with Real Temp.
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You tell us, we only know what the Tj Target is. Tj Max will differ between CPUs and even cores of the same CPU.
This is fact. I'm glad you posted!
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I just had a day dream that some day a intel rep is going to join OCN and prove all of this wrong.



OP dig up some things about VID states for us, talk about the VID tables.
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The Intel reps don't understand it. You'd need an engineer with the guts to give away "trade secrets"
    
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The Intel reps don't understand it. You'd need an engineer with the guts to give away "trade secrets"
heh

I'd laugh if there was some unknown variable, like umm...
um


Hidden_volt

i don't know
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I just had a day dream that some day a intel rep is going to join OCN and prove all of this wrong.

OP dig up some things about VID states for us, talk about the VID tables.
What is there to talk about with VID tables? VID is just what Intel determined the CPU needed to run 100% stable at stock settings. It has been proven in the past that extremely low VID chips do not always overclock that well and that some chips with the maximum VID sometimes overclock just as well. VID is a completely mixed bag and doesn't really say much about potential overclocking, except that sometimes lower VID chips overclock better than an average chip, but this has been proven to not be the case all the time.
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What is there to talk about with VID tables? VID is just what Intel determined the CPU needed to run 100% stable at stock settings. It has been proven in the past that extremely low VID chips do not always overclock that well and that some chips with the maximum VID sometimes overclock just as well. VID is a completely mixed bag and doesn't really say much about potential overclocking, except that sometimes lower VID chips overclock better than an average chip, but this has been proven to not be the case all the time.
Well there is a VID table in the specsheet, but I don't quite understand it. It says VID 1 2 3
1 0 1


something like that. Is that just the pins or something?
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VID is only important (if you can call it important) for Core 2 and earlier anyway. Core i7 has no readable VID information.
    
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VID is only important (if you can call it important) for Core 2 and earlier anyway. Core i7 has no readable VID information.
I think its important, because almost everybody here thinks you have a great chip if you have a low vid, hurr hurr
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This was very informative and useful however the world NEGLECTS AMD so it ended up having no use to me.
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