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But it's still going to have an effect, and it won't be good.

By the way, I Primed my CPU for 2 hours and 23 minutes before one of the cores failed. The temperature got as hot as 68/68/60/60C (TJMax set to 90C) at a load vcore of 1.472v. I'm bumped the vcore up to 1.480v load, 1.54v idle, hopefully that'll be stable. Should I be worrying about the temps, though? I mean, as long as they don't exceed 50-52C under normal conditions, there should be nothing to worry about, right?
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But you don't know how much effect it will have on the lifespan anyway. Every chip is different.
That doesn't change what I just said.
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But it's still going to have an effect, and it won't be good.

By the way, I Primed my CPU for 2 hours and 23 minutes before one of the cores failed. The temperature got as hot as 68/68/60/60C (TJMax set to 90C) at a load vcore of 1.472v. I'm bumped the vcore up to 1.480v load, 1.54v idle, hopefully that'll be stable. Should I be worrying about the temps, though? I mean, as long as they don't exceed 50-52C under normal conditions, there should be nothing to worry about, right?
The main (but not only) reason why we need to watch our temps is so that if we have instability, we can know whether or not it was caused by heat. I would say that if the temps really did get to 68/68/60/60, then heat probably wasn't the cause of instability here. Although, you are close to the point where heat would begin to cause instability no matter what the BIOS settings are.

That's the primary concern. After all, it's more likely that heat will cause instability while stress testing before it will cause damage. So, try to have a goal of making your overclock so stable that it can pass all of the stress testing that we recommend.
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That doesn't change what I just said.
Don't be so paranoid. Push it to the max!

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Don't be so paranoid. Push it to the max!

/runs at stock


ogod somebody is running @ stock here? !!!

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I'm still reading up on VID, but as I understand it you are on the right track with the C States and each having their own VID, but the voltage commonly called VID on this forum is the VID of the 100% speed C State. BTW literally VID means Voltage IDentifcation
I see what you're saying. Thanks about the VID definition. (what it stands for)

whew I slept at 6 yesterday and I'm awake now @ 4 am.



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now what...
Edited by FSF-Foxhound - 10/31/09 at 2:58am
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wow i still think 100c is scary for a temp on a core even though i know a core i7 will hit 100+ easily (mine hit 120 when i was experimenting with it)
TjMax + 20c? I would assume incorrectly set TjMax, and therefore, any readings based off TjMax would be inaccurate.
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Nothing can be said about about the accuracy of a temperature measurement once Dist to TJ Max=0
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Nothing can be said about about the accuracy of a temperature measurement once Dist to TJ Max=0
What I mean is, if RealTemp showed 120c, I would expect TjMax to be incorrectly set at 60c, or something; as opposed to the cores actually seeing 120c.

Unless thermal controls have been deactivated, it would start to throttle around ~95c, in my experience.
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I'm betting he disabled thermal management and just let them fry.... very very naughty JohnDProb

Intel has never actually stated what type of thermal couple they use (I expect J-type) (types are based upon which metals they use and J-type detects relatively low temperatures better than others), and just have a standard calibration point (TJ Max) that is detected by a set voltage/current going through the dissimilar metals. Because we don't know what calibration can be considered above TJ Max and the type of thermal couple used, no conclusions can be made, which is basically what we both said.
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I'm betting he disabled thermal management and just let them fry.... very very naughty JohnDProb

Intel has never actually stated what type of thermal couple they use (I expect J-type) (types are based upon which metals they use and J-type detects relatively low temperatures better than others), and just have a standard calibration point (TJ Max) that is detected by a set voltage/current going through the dissimilar metals. Because we don't know what calibration can be considered above TJ Max and the type of thermal couple used, no conclusions can be made, which is basically what we both said.
You are like "The goose that laid the golden data point". And there are others, too. That is what makes OCN a singular forum.

Speaking of singularities, I found out that Einstein and I, both had roughly the same epiphany about the nature of time, that each moment exist eternally, and that you just perceive the linearity.

I am sure that his ideas were much more fleshed out, but still, kind of validating.


And yes, I feel very ridiculous saying this.
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Speaking of singularities, I found out that Einstein and I, both had roughly the same epiphany about the nature of time, that each moment exist eternally, and that you just perceive the linearity.

I am sure that his ideas were much more fleshed out, but still, kind of validating.


And yes, I feel very ridiculous saying this.
Me+Physics= Do not get along

I know it well enough to get through my Calc based physics year, but besides that I am a novice at best. Even the theory of relativity with the twin theory still confuses me.... and then there is dark matter... evil evil evil physics

I'm glad that you at least understand it well enough to figure out a concept that still doesn't make sense to me and 99% of the world.
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