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Thanks, I'll go there and look for it now. I was getting frustrated looking at all the list's megaoption101 put together and was not finding it.
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Some have asked me how best to run S&M. I figured I would share:

All systems: Run as adminsistrator
Vista: Disable Visual Themes / Disable Desktop Composition


(Make sure the HDD test is disabled on the HDD tab.)

My desktop is running SnM right now; this is from my laptop. AMD systems show AMD icons for each CPU core; Intel systems (as you can see) show Intel icons. The run configured above will take 3-6 hours depending on your RAM. The CPU tests alone are 95 minutes. The balance is RAM testing. (Time is done per DIMM; 2x2048 will be done before 4x1024.) As far as I have ascertained, it is 12 minutes per DIMM per test. Thus, for 2x2048, you expect 96 minutes, bringing total run time to 3:11. (Empirical data shows 3:16 as per my last run.)

BE FOREWARNED

FPU is guaranteed to get your CPU hotter than OCCT, Prime95, Orthos, or in fact, almost anything you can throw at it. Be sure you watch your temperatures. If you decide to run S&M, you absolve myself, OCN, and the program creator of all liability in the event it breaks something.

S&M has built in temperature monitoring provided you can accept an unsigned driver. I let OCCT v2.0.1 idle in the background to watch temps.
     
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Thank you for the details on how you are running your S & M test's. I tried it and after the cpu test's were complete it started a memtest. That is when windows gave me a msg at the lower right corner stating that the sytem was low on virtual ram. Is this a normal occurance or do you think I should make an adjustment to my virtual ram prior to benchmarking w/S & M?
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This is normal. In XP, S&M could access nearly all of the RAM. In Vista, that is limited to all but a half-gigabyte. I personally have always made my virtual memory a fixed 150% of my physical memory rather than letting Windows decide what it wants my virtual memory to be.
     
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So, I was trying to run SuperPi Mod 1.5, and for the life of me, it would not run. Why? I do not know. So I looked up the problem online, and found this solution. Well, it was cumbersome to run CMD every time I wanted to run SuperPi. So, I made a batch file. It will make the changes to the services, open SuperPi, and then sit and wait. When I close SuperPi, it will reenable the services it disabled and then terminate itself. Problem solved.

Would it be nice not to need a 188 B file to run a program? Sure. But you can blame cheaters which required the modification to the program to prevent them.

The following is saved as "SPI.cmd", which must be ran as an administrator to work:

Code:
net stop "Creative Audio Service"
net stop "AudioSrv"
start /wait /d "C:UsersKeithDocume~1Stress~1SuperPi" super_pi_mod.exe
net start "AudioSrv"
net start "Creative Audio Service"
     
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Here Thlnk3r, this testing is for you and Joe:



I thought I would investigate more-fully the ganged versus unganged memory controller option. I took Everest Bandwidth tests 7 times under each setting. The lowest and highest values were discarded, the other five were averaged.

I also decided to try some applications. I used the fastest running program I have (about 25s per run) and did similar. For the single SuperPi application, it is easy: run, record; run, record; et cetera. For the SuperPi4x, it was a bit more complicated. I opened SuperPi from a folder labeled 0, and set affinity to Core 0 solely. A SuperPi from a folder labled 1, and set affinity to Core 1 solely. The same for Cores 2/3. Then I told all four to calculate 1M, but did not hit the "okay" to start the run. I stacked all the buttons up, and then rapid-fired the mouse button, causing all four cores to be operating within milliseconds of each other. The four cores were then averaged.

We see:

A single instance of SuperPi benefits by 0.5 % by using ganged.
Four instances of SuperPi benefit by 1.7% by using unganged.
Memory read benefits by 12.5% by using ganged.
Memory write benefits by 0.3% by using unganged.
Memory copy benefits by 8.3% by using unganged.
Memory latency benefits by 0.8% by using ganged.

Conclusion: Inconclusive.

I might try some 3DMark06, but given the minute differences in bandwidth, I do not see any real changes.

Also in the agenda: Another 2 MHz on the HTT and/or lower RAM timings.






And for the record, the address in my prior post is "C:\\Users\\Keith\\Docume~1\\Stress~1\\SuperPi ." The CODE tag seems to delete that character.
     
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Blitz, I'm not sure but the applications have support something referred to as "two threaded algorithmic mode"? This is especially good for "unganged mode". This was mentioned somewhere in the xtremesystems forum. Sorry I can't recall

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It is interesting to note that a single instance does better on ganged and multiple instances do better on unganged. I will look into the mode you mention, but so far, Google is only turning up your post.
     
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It is interesting to note that a single instance does better on ganged and multiple instances do better on unganged. I will look into the mode you mention, but so far, Google is only turning up your post.
Blitz, check this out.

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Yeah, this confirms the SuperPi experiment I ran. I wonder if Everest Ultimate will ever have a mutli-threaded bandwidth test?
     
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