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tCL (CAS Latency) : 9t
tRCG (RAS to CAS Delay) : 9t
tRP (RAS Precharge) : 9t
tRAS (Precharge Delay) : 28t
CR (Command Rate) : Auto
tRFC (Refresh Cycle Time) : Auto
tWR (Write Recovery Time) : Auto
tWTR (Write to Read Delay) : Auto
tRRD (RAS to RAS Delay) : Auto
tRTP (Read to Precharge) : Auto
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CPU Voltages: 1.32 but actually 1.36v
CPU Core Voltage : +20mV
CPU Target Core Voltage : 1.18250
CPU Vdroop Compensation : enabled
CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage : +200mV
1.8v PLL voltage setting: 1.810v
CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl: 0.800v
Memory Voltages
DRAM Voltage : 1.65
DIMM1 Vref CA (Addresses) : 0.500
DIMM1 Vref DQ (Data) : 0.500
DIMM2 Vref CA (Addresses) : 0.500
DIMM2 Vref DQ (Data) : 0.500
DIMM3 Vref CA (Addresses) : 0.500
DIMM3 Vref DQ (Data) : 0.500
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X58 IOH VCCA 1.1V : 1.125v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.5V : 1.506v
ICH10 SB Voltage : 1.506v
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CPU Turbo : enabled
System Turbo : enabled
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CPU Bclock (FSB) : 180MHz
QPI Link Fast Mode : enabled
QPI Multiplier : Auto
QPI Target Speed : 3245MHz (6.5 Gt/s)
CPU Core Multiplier : x20
CPU Core Target Speed : 3606
CPU Uncore Multiplier : x 12
CPU Uncore Target Speed : 2165MHz
Memory Bus Multiplier : x 10
Memory Bus Target Speed : 1805MHz
CPU Clock Skew : 0ps
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Thanks for the help, +rep.- I thought for some reason the uncore and cpu target clocks should be similar? Does it help overclocking to have the uncore multiplier set lower like you have?

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Originally Posted by ritchwell View Post
My 24/7 settings:

Quantum BIOS (P06)

CPU Features
PPM : enabled
EIST : enabled
CxE : disabled
Execute Disable Bit : enabled
Virtualization : enabled
Hyper Threading : enabled
Active Processor Cores :All
Memory Settings
Memory Controller Settings
IMC Configuration : enabled
Channel Congifuration : independent
Channel Interleaving : 6way
Rank Interleaving : 4 way
Memory Timings
Extreme Memory Profile XMP : Disabled
Memory Profile Select : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : Manual
tCL (CAS Latency) : 9t
tRCG (RAS to CAS Delay) : 9t
tRP (RAS Precharge) : 9t
tRAS (Precharge Delay) : 28t
CR (Command Rate) : Auto
tRFC (Refresh Cycle Time) : Auto
tWR (Write Recovery Time) : Auto
tWTR (Write to Read Delay) : Auto
tRRD (RAS to RAS Delay) : Auto
tRTP (Read to Precharge) : Auto
All Voltage Settings
CPU Voltages: 1.32 but actually 1.36v
CPU Core Voltage : +20mV
CPU Target Core Voltage : 1.18250
CPU Vdroop Compensation : enabled
CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage : +200mV
1.8v PLL voltage setting: 1.810v
CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl: 0.800v
Memory Voltages
DRAM Voltage : 1.65
DIMM1 Vref CA (Addresses) : 0.500
DIMM1 Vref DQ (Data) : 0.500
DIMM2 Vref CA (Addresses) : 0.500
DIMM2 Vref DQ (Data) : 0.500
DIMM3 Vref CA (Addresses) : 0.500
DIMM3 Vref DQ (Data) : 0.500
Chipset Voltages
X58 IOH Core Voltage : 1.30v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.1V : 1.125v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.5V : 1.506v
ICH10 SB Voltage : 1.506v
OC Gear :
Overclock recovery: enabled
CPU Turbo : enabled
System Turbo : enabled
Clock Speed Control Center
CPU Bclock (FSB) : 180MHz
QPI Link Fast Mode : enabled
QPI Multiplier : Auto
QPI Target Speed : 3245MHz (6.5 Gt/s)
CPU Core Multiplier : x20
CPU Core Target Speed : 3606
CPU Uncore Multiplier : x 12
CPU Uncore Target Speed : 2165MHz
Memory Bus Multiplier : x 10
Memory Bus Target Speed : 1805MHz
CPU Clock Skew : 0ps
IOH Clock Skew : 0ps
    
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Since im new to overclocking, it was my auto setting and i equalled it with the multiplier set setting while i was increasing the bclk and all the others.
Edited by ritchwell - 4/29/09 at 8:31am
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There's definitely a 220bclk wall here with the i7's. I don't think it's a problem with the chip since we all have the same wall. I would say it's the boards wall.

I just tried again with a super low multi, super low ram divider, and uncore divider. Still crashes after 220 bclk. Classified here I come for benching! I Love you still BR you will be my everyday love muffin' on the i7 965!
Well as you possibly know, I got my Bloodrage and 920-D0 chip as well. Got windows installed and all that good stuff, board still at stock with P06 and installed RealTemp, CPUZ and so on.

I've been busy for 3 hours now working with the board, and the first phase I am working on right now is indeed trying to find the BCLK max. I've gotten it stable at 210, but 215 pretty much is a no-go with Prime. 220 I can't seem to achieve at all.

This is what I am thinking. Going from 200 - 210 primarily required upping the VUncore to get that stable. Another 'rule' I figured out with the voltage settings is that the IOH needs to stay about 50mV below the VUncore setting. That combination got me bootable into Windows. At last to become Prime stable I had to feed the CPU core some juice, the Vcore.

All of this leads me to believe it's not really the board's limit but rather the QPI bus speed limit. It is impossible to lower the QPI speed even more, 18x is the smallest Multi unfortunately. I think we're actually hitting a QPI wall here.

It all makes sense to get semi stable at 220 by having to up both Vuncore and IOH core as these voltages directly affect the QPI bus strength.

Anyways, that's my opinion..
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All of this leads me to believe it's not really the board's limit but rather the QPI bus speed limit. It is impossible to lower the QPI speed even more, 18x is the smallest Multi unfortunately. I think we're actually hitting a QPI wall here.


Anyways, that's my opinion..
I spent an evening mulling this over in my mind as well. The 220 wall on my bloodrage corresponds to a 4 Ghz QPI clock. 4Ghz = no boot or BSOD.

This theory is reinforced by this guy's DFI 920 clock to 4.977. Look at the screenies. Note that at 21X237bclock his QPI is 2.84 GHz!

Others have noted that upping PCIE frequency allows them to get past the wall.

Bloodrage won't let you go lower than 18 QPI multi, and there's no way to adjust PCIE frequency. With that in mind, it seems that a BIOS update might open up a way to get past the wall. But as I've said before, Foxconn probably would have done that by now if they could.
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That would lead me to believe that a BIOS update could offer us a lower QPI multi. If DFI can do it, so should Foxconn.
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I've been eavesdropping on Utnorris and NC's conversation with BenchZowner over at xtreme (that not being able to register bug over at the Quantum Force's officially associated forum is driving me nuts).

Apparently there have been a few who've gotten past the wall with massive Vtt voltages (1.7+ range) and big DRAM voltages (2.2+). That also makes general sense with the QPI issue and the fact that my most common BSOD's near the wall have 124 code.

Hmm......I know my curiosity is going to get the best of me this weekend. I can't really justify buying a D0, but if my C0 "happens" to burn out what else can I do?
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Don't waste your C0 mate, and doubtfully D0s would allow a higher QPI. Somehow we gotta convince Foxconn to add a lower than 18 multi to the BIOS. And while they're at it, the PCI latency setting would be useful too so I could set that back to 192, but that's totally unrelated to this.
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Don't waste your C0 mate, and doubtfully D0s would allow a higher QPI. Somehow we gotta convince Foxconn to add a lower than 18 multi to the BIOS. And while they're at it, the PCI latency setting would be useful too so I could set that back to 192, but that's totally unrelated to this.
Yeah, I'll wait until my present from Duniek arrives to try the 1.75VTT/2.25 RAM voltage ranges

But I'm getting kind of excited. I like this board and was feeling kind of teased. I also noticed they were upping the IOH to the 1.5+ range, which goes along with my noticeable stability increase when bumping IOH to 1.38-1.4 and RAM v to 1.7.

I've got my CPU and NB on water and have taken my VTT over 1.5 and IOH over 1.4 without event, but on separate occasions. Tying it all together, hopefully I can pass the wall on water.
Edited by Patch - 4/29/09 at 4:14pm
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hey Patch, kinda curious. What is your temps on the NB with the waterblock? Air makes it kinda toasty after 1.4v and some benching.
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