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The problem with Marvel Mystery Oil is that it is a Penetrant so it can wear out the bearing surface if used over an extended period which is why I didn't mention it. I have used it and it's good for freeing up a fan that is stuck, but Rem Oil (in a bottle or tube, not the spray), Fishing Reel Lube, or Sewing Machine Oil are a better option.
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Fishing reel oil worked WONDERS for my broken fan. I didn't think it would help that much. Now that I have the Yates in my computer, it sounds like a little vacuum. haha
    
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Imagine what mine sounds like. I have FOUR of the HIGH SPEED 120 Yates in mine. 1 intake, 1 exhaust, and 2 on the 212+. Have both of the BladeMasters on the other 212+ in the folding rig with 2 medium speed Rosewill 120s. It's amazing how much quieter the folding rig is.
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The problem with Marvel Mystery Oil is that it is a Penetrant so it can wear out the bearing surface if used over an extended period which is why I didn't mention it. I have used it and it's good for freeing up a fan that is stuck, but Rem Oil (in a bottle or tube, not the spray), Fishing Reel Lube, or Sewing Machine Oil are a better option.
That's interesting, 3 in 1 is also a penetrant, any difference there? The Marvel is rated to work on sewing machines and similar mechanisms so I figured it would be fine... I'll have to look into the sewing machine oil. I use Marvel on lots of things and I've never had a problem with it wearing out parts, I guess the fan bearings are more sensitive?

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Fishing reel oil worked WONDERS for my broken fan. I didn't think it would help that much. Now that I have the Yates in my computer, it sounds like a little vacuum. haha
Oiled Yates are some of the best fans around in my mind, I've got a bunch of High Speeds running off a fan controller turned down to low/medium speeds and they're great. You can't beat the performance for the price, or even double the price haha.
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That's interesting, 3 in 1 is also a penetrant, any difference there? The Marvel is rated to work on sewing machines and similar mechanisms so I figured it would be fine... I'll have to look into the sewing machine oil. I use Marvel on lots of things and I've never had a problem with it wearing out parts, I guess the fan bearings are more sensitive?


Oiled Yates are some of the best fans around in my mind, I've got a bunch of High Speeds running off a fan controller turned down to low/medium speeds and they're great. You can't beat the performance for the price, or even double the price haha.
There is more than one type of 3 in 1 oil. One doesn't have much of a penetrant in it. Any type of lubricant has some penetrating properties. Some just have more than others. MMO has a very high amount compared to the others that I mentioned. If you haven't been having a problem with it go ahead. I just don't recommend it for the most part as I think there are better alternatives. My fav is still Rem Oil in the bottle or tube.
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The problem with Marvel Mystery Oil is that it is a Penetrant so it can wear out the bearing surface if used over an extended period which is why I didn't mention it. I have used it and it's good for freeing up a fan that is stuck, but Rem Oil (in a bottle or tube, not the spray), Fishing Reel Lube, or Sewing Machine Oil are a better option.
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Fishing reel oil worked WONDERS for my broken fan. I didn't think it would help that much. Now that I have the Yates in my computer, it sounds like a little vacuum. haha
You folks are full of great ideas. In addition to the three lubricants I mentioned in item 3 of my sig, I have also tried . The cheapest and easiest to get was the Singer sewing machine oil (all purpose machine oil), available at Wal-Mart for under $3.
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It is cheaper for me to use the fishing real oil because our family goes fishing quite often.
    
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That's why I mention as many types as I do. There's a good chance that a person would have at least one of them at home. Heck, I lubed one fan with Vaseline Petroleum Jelly when that was all we had laying around one night. I had to take the fan apart and manually apply it to the shaft then re-assemble the fan as it wouldn't seep down the bearing otherwise, but it worked. It was a bit thick and slowed the fan by about 200rpm, but it stopped making noise which was the main thing we were concerned with at the time. It is useful if you have a fan where the bearing has worn out as it fills up the extra space better than an oil will.

Something else that can work fairly well is White Lithium Grease in a spray can (the stuff in tubes and tubs tends to be too thick). The spray will allow it to get down the shaft but it has less compressibility than oils so it works well on older fans that the bearings are showing wear. I used to work for NAPA and had access to a LOT of different lubricants to experiment with. The one that actually worked the best was a very expensive Silicon Grease that ran about $40 for a fairly small tube. It was a high tech brake grease designed for extremely high temps on high performance brake calipers. The price makes it impractical for use in fans though. I only tried it as I was given a very small sample from the vendor to try out and had just enough left over after doing the brakes on my car to do a couple of fans. No loss of rpm, no noise, no wobble, and lasted several years.

That Bones stuff does look like it would work quite well. I imagine someone who rollerblades or skateboards a lot would have some on hand.
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There is more than one type of 3 in 1 oil. One doesn't have much of a penetrant in it. Any type of lubricant has some penetrating properties. Some just have more than others. MMO has a very high amount compared to the others that I mentioned. If you haven't been having a problem with it go ahead. I just don't recommend it for the most part as I think there are better alternatives. My fav is still Rem Oil in the bottle or tube.
Where could I find the Rem Oil?

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You folks are full of great ideas. In addition to the three lubricants I mentioned in item 3 of my sig, I have also tried Bones Speed Cream. The cheapest and easiest to get was the Singer sewing machine oil (all purpose machine oil), available at Wal-Mart for under $3.
I'm going to see about picking up some sewing machine oil in the next few days...

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That's why I mention as many types as I do. There's a good chance that a person would have at least one of them at home. Heck, I lubed one fan with Vaseline Petroleum Jelly when that was all we had laying around one night. I had to take the fan apart and manually apply it to the shaft then re-assemble the fan as it wouldn't seep down the bearing otherwise, but it worked. It was a bit thick and slowed the fan by about 200rpm, but it stopped making noise which was the main thing we were concerned with at the time. It is useful if you have a fan where the bearing has worn out as it fills up the extra space better than an oil will.

Something else that can work fairly well is White Lithium Grease in a spray can (the stuff in tubes and tubs tends to be too thick). The spray will allow it to get down the shaft but it has less compressibility than oils so it works well on older fans that the bearings are showing wear. I used to work for NAPA and had access to a LOT of different lubricants to experiment with. The one that actually worked the best was a very expensive Silicon Grease that ran about $40 for a fairly small tube. It was a high tech brake grease designed for extremely high temps on high performance brake calipers. The price makes it impractical for use in fans though. I only tried it as I was given a very small sample from the vendor to try out and had just enough left over after doing the brakes on my car to do a couple of fans. No loss of rpm, no noise, no wobble, and lasted several years.

That Bones stuff does look like it would work quite well. I imagine someone who rollerblades or skateboards a lot would have some on hand.
At 3-5 bucks a fan, it's great to actually have computer parts than your can feel are expendable For a tinkerer like me, it's great to mess with things like this...
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meh i only paid like $3 each over a year ago for them, not worth my time or money to find oil and take them apart, when i just need 1 more 120mm to replace all 3 with spire's might use the lian li case fan i got from my lian li k62 thats in my closent until i order one.

i have tryed turning them down to 7v on my fan controler, but the noise is only louder.
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