Originally Posted by steelkevin
Originally Posted by Ceadderman
2) EK is a Yate Loon Supplier.
3)Yes. I have 3 of the D12SH-12Cs' running in Intake horizontally. They work just fine.
I would suggest running them at Intake above the Radiator though so as to Pull air through the Radiator and out the top.
I'll be placing an order by Monday so that's why I'm a bit in a hurry.
Somebody in another thread mentioned there were "ball bearing fans" and "sleeve bearing fans" and that the second ones didn't work well in a horizontal position. Maybe he was just throwing knowledge out there but it got me confused as he never told me if he was talking about those Yate Loons I'm looking into or not.
Do you know anything about that ?
Okay, lemme ask you...
How many Cooler Master HAF owners here on OCN have complained about their 230 just flat out failing? 230s' are sleeved bearing fans.
To my knowledge(2 years in the HAF club and counting) not a single instance has occurred. Even though every 932 and HAF X comes with one mounted horizontally. Granted there are most certainly owners who replaced them with 120mm units before this could happen, but mine ran beautifully and my bro still has his working after 2 and a half years of use. I have built client systems that use HAFs' and they've yet to come back complaining about the fan as well.
To me a sleeved bearing is no worse than a ball bearing except that it has less surface are to hold the lubricant. But they're super easy to maintain and cheaper. They have a bad reputation, that imho is mostly word of mouth. One person has an issue they don't understand so they tell their friends and friends as they often do simply take the word of their bro and pretty soon every little instance is, it's the bearing. Not improper mounting torque inducing flex i.e. the "clicking" commonly referred to in complaints.
I had a personal instance of the "clicking" sound. You know what it was? The top of my case is not true from front to back. The 3rd position in the front of the 932 is not flat. There is a step up about halfway under the plastic top that mounts to the metal. It's the metal that is the problem not the top. I tightened my fans to be solidly mounted so vibration would not induce failure. The back 2 fans worked without issue. The Front fan however had clicking sound coming from it. It was enough to make me think that maybe the whiners(no being derogatory here) were onto something. But I didn't just chuck the fan at the first sign of a problem. Instead I looked at the mounting and noticed that it wasn't true and adjusted my fan quick studs to loosen them and that "clicking" miraculously disappeared.
Now that may not always be the case. Every instance has some merit as well as some fallacy. I just think that there is more negative going around about Sleeved bearing fans for no reason at all. Do you remember how Hitachi Deskstars were maligned due almost entirely to a Seagate Rep bad mouthing their construction and how Seagate HDD were better because they had 4 platters instead of 5? Go to Newegg and look up Refurb HDD. Most of them are Seagate, WD and Maxtor. There is a smattering of Hitachi. Western Digital bought Hitachi's HDD division, so it's not because Hitachi bowed out.
But I digress. Yate Loons are cheap enough that I would suggest giving it a go and see for yourself. Don't take someone else's word because even the so called experts (myself included) can have a bad day. Don't take word over experience unless word of mouth can provide clear documentation that it's on the up and up. The problem with someone's word on the Internet, is that you don't know what experience they had when they made their mind up about a product you're looking at. If you check out my YouTube channel, I've made a couple mistakes in my line of thinking regarding the H50 I used to own. Great little cooler, but I leave those up because I made those mistakes while learning. Mistakes and learning go hand in hand.