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I've also read that USB keyboards won't work in the BIOS, but since I've only ever had PS/2 (at least on machines that I've gone into the BIOS) I don't know if this is always the case.


The M1 for $42 looks very tempting, and I might get it in spite of the shortcomings of USB. 6+4 should be more than adequate for gaming, I think.
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I've also read that USB keyboards won't work in the BIOS, but since I've only ever had PS/2 (at least on machines that I've gone into the BIOS) I don't know if this is always the case.


The M1 for $42 looks very tempting, and I might get it in spite of the shortcomings of USB. 6+4 should be more than adequate for gaming, I think.
Where is it $42? Newegg has it for $50 .
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I've also read that USB keyboards won't work in the BIOS, but since I've only ever had PS/2 (at least on machines that I've gone into the BIOS) I don't know if this is always the case.


The M1 for $42 looks very tempting, and I might get it in spite of the shortcomings of USB. 6+4 should be more than adequate for gaming, I think.
That used to be the case on really old systems, like the Pentium 2. Not anymore though. And as long as Legacy USB is enabled the software can access it the same way as a PS/2 board, using int9h to read from the keyboard buffer.
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Where is it $42? Newegg has it for $50 .
$30+12.50 shipping. I'd tell you where, but there's only one, and I claim it.
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in the summer newegg had the ABS M1 on for about $29 or $39 USD for like 2 months long.

from Adam at Deck.

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If you plug your Deck Legend with the PS/2 interface into a computer while it is already on and it doesn't work you may want to try a reboot. PS/2 devices are not all that friendly to hot-plugging, but they work 99% of the time when present at boot.

On a side note, if you ever want to switch your Deck Legend from PS/2 to USB you can do so using a phillips screwdriver and a pair of side cutters. The cable on your Deck has a USB plug on one side and a PS/2 plug on the other side. Simply flip the cable around inside the housing and clip the resistor located at W3 from what I remember (top left corner of the PC board, labeled with 'clip for use with USB').
I must be unlucky because I have had plenty of PS/2 and even a USB mouse lock up during windows install

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I've read that the M1 won't work through a PS/2 adapter.
true.
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How do you figure it's not necessary? If the controller in the keyboard is programmed for USB only, how the hell is it going to output more than 6+4 keys?
native ps/2. Like how the Filco has a USB connector at the end, not a PS/2, and uses an adapter
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native ps/2. Like how the Filco has a USB connector at the end, not a PS/2, and uses an adapter
Actually, the Filco is native PS/2, as that's a passive adapter.
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native ps/2. Like how the Filco has a USB connector at the end, not a PS/2, and uses an adapter
Yeah the connector has nothing to do with it. The controller inside can automatically detect if it's connected to USB or PS/2 and act that way accordingly. So it's native to both.

USB-only keyboards (non-native PS/2) can still only output 6+4 keys.
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If I use a PS/2 splitter, will I lose NKRO in my keyboards?
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