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post #10741 of 14551
Just because a Model M has a membrane for switch activation doesn't make it a cousin to a rubber dome. True if you remove the spring on a Model M it doesn't work at all, but ppl don't spend 200$ for a rubberless topre, they spend the 200$ for that super design rubber whatever secret sauce formula, the spring is just there to bridge the the switch mechanism in a Topre as demonstrated by the 5g of force it provides.
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Just because a Model M has a membrane for switch activation doesn't make it a cousin to a rubber dome.
No, what I said was that a Model M's keyswitch mechanism is more similar in operation and design to a rubber dome than a Topre is. Not quite what you are saying there, even if the difference is subtle.

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True if you remove the spring on a Model M it doesn't work at all
The point I made here was to do with rubber dome keyboards not Model Ms. A rubber dome keyboard is defined by the rubber dome. Every aspect of the rubber dome mechanism is encapsulated in that dome. If you get rid of the rubber dome from a rubber dome keyboard, you have nothing. In the Topre, it's only there to provide tactility.

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but ppl don't spend 200$ for a rubberless topre, they spend the 200$ for that super design rubber whatever secret sauce formula, the spring is just there to bridge the the switch mechanism in a Topre as demonstrated by the 5g of force it provides.
Yes, that spring does a lot of magical stuff - the capacitive switching that it enables means that the Topre has the longest shelf life of any tactile switch keyboard that is currently produced (even Unicomp buckling springs only last 25 million vs the Topre's 30 million). Also, because the spring takes the strain off the dome and cushions the bottoming out, you get something that many people (myself included) prefer over just about any Cherry switch, nevermind rubber domes.

Judging switches by force ratings is kinda silly, innit?
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post #10743 of 14551
Finally back in my apartment. After being apart from my mechanical keyboards for a month I can once again type on them. My Filco once again feels amazing to type on.
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Finally back in my apartment. After being apart from my mechanical keyboards for a month I can once again type on them. My Filco once again feels amazing to type on.
Everytime when I come home from work I have the same feeling
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Should have put something over the Filco, had to blow a ton of dust off of it.
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post #10746 of 14551
Shelf life of springs means nothing. They should give me metrics, not pr and random numbers in the sales brochure. But they can't even define what they mean with such numbers. Is it when the switch always fails? Sometimes fails? Or can it operate but is there a threshold of tactility beyond which it is no longer in the minimal quality range? Is it about the switch that will fail first? Seems more like a randomly rounded fail-safe number. But who knows. Now these numbers mean as little as a graph in commercials for toothpaste or cleaning detergents. According to the manufacturer, this stuff cleans 2 times better than the competition, just look at this graph.



Our stuff is better. This graph proves it.
post #10747 of 14551
Even leaving aside potentially bull**** manufacturer specs, the Topre is more likely to last longer than most of the other stuff on the market. No membrane like the M (seen more than a few Model M membranes die from old age), and no silly gajillion-moving-parts design like the Cherry. The construction of them has at least some isolation between the outside world and the innards, at least compared with an Alps or Cherry design. It's a simple mechanism using reliable capacitive switching, and yet very pleasant to type on. What more could you want?
Edited by ch_123 - 1/16/11 at 5:49pm
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post #10748 of 14551
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What more could you want?
Lower price would be cool.
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post #10749 of 14551
Hello Guys, I am thinking of getting a mechanical keyboard..

I am complenplating between brown and red switches

I am a person who prefer a quiet working environment, is red switch for me or I should get brown to get a brown for its tactless feedback.

if so, please recommend me a brand where by the keys won't fade on me.
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Hello Guys, I am thinking of getting a mechanical keyboard..

I am complenplating between brown and red switches

I am a person who prefer a quiet working environment, is red switch for me or I should get brown to get a brown for its tactless feedback.

if so, please recommend me a brand where by the keys won't fade on me.
The tactile 'bump' of the browns is not loud at all. If anything browns will be quieter because it will be easier to type without bottoming out the keys which makes most of the noise.
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