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I have strange methods, but I use all 10 fingers and other objects that can press more than 10 keys at the same time. hehe
Right, but it's not really possible to press them at the exact same time, so with notepad you can't tell if it's reading qwert all at once, or if it went QW, then registered the ERT, and stopped registering the QW.

For example, on my realforce, which has 6kro, I can press sl,j;dfcgk down once, and it all appears. You can't really tell where the locking is, at least not consistently.

If I use the program, I can see that I can only get 6 key to register at once.
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Tried out the one on the Microsoft page. I pushed as many keys as I could simultaneously and they all worked. No ghosting. Only thing was that after I let them go, a few keys were still "depressed". Solved by pushing each of those keys once. Not sure what was causing that.
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It's not ghosting. Ghosting is actually something entirely different from key rollover.
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If I remember correctly, ghosting is when keys you didn't press get registered. Rather than being a normal thing, ghosting means that there's something hideously wrong with the design of your keyboard.

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Tried out the one on the Microsoft page. I pushed as many keys as I could simultaneously and they all worked. No ghosting. Only thing was that after I let them go, a few keys were still "depressed". Solved by pushing each of those keys once. Not sure what was causing that.
Keyboards send out one scancode to the computer when one key is pressed, and another one when the key is released. This prevents the keyboard from having to send out a "this key is pressed" continiously, which would overflow the keyboard controller on the PC.

Point is, if you release too many keys in one go, it's possible that some of them get lost on a USB keyboard which normally only keeps track of 6 keys at once. I tested this out on my HHKB once, and the controller was designed in such a way that if you pressed a seventh key the first key that you pressed in the sequence is dropped, so the controller only keeps track of the six most recently pressed keys. Lesser controllers may not handle this scenario quite as elegantly.

That, and that test may be slightly broken
Edited by ch_123 - 1/24/11 at 3:39pm
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh. Enough talking. Just tell me EK has leopolds in stock already!!! *waits impatiently*
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I have strange methods, but I use all 10 fingers and other objects that can press more than 10 keys at the same time. hehe
Wait, do you use your feet then? Sorry. I just had to say that. It would be because you'd be all cooped up in a chair trying to coordinate your feet and hands so they don't hit each other. It would be funny if somebody can type something like 100 wpm with their feet. I would love to see that.
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If I remember correctly, ghosting is when keys you didn't press get registered. Rather than being a normal thing, ghosting means that there's something hideously wrong with the design of your keyboard.


I think the problem was that NKRO reminds people of math, and also the term "ghosting" makes boards like Razers sound better. It really has 2KRO still, but they can say it has "anti-ghosting" to prevent blocked keys. To the average idiot who is reading the description, this makes a lot more sense then trying to use the proper terminology.

At a certain point, all we're doing is confusing people by saying the term ghosting is wrong. It's not like any modern keyboard really has the true ghosting issue anyways.
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The Das 3 did... as did a lot of Costar boards from a few years back.
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If I remember correctly, ghosting is when keys you didn't press get registered. Rather than being a normal thing, ghosting means that there's something hideously wrong with the design of your keyboard.



Keyboards send out one scancode to the computer when one key is pressed, and another one when the key is released. This prevents the keyboard from having to send out a "this key is pressed" continiously, which would overflow the keyboard controller on the PC.

Point is, if you release too many keys in one go, it's possible that some of them get lost on a USB keyboard which normally only keeps track of 6 keys at once. I tested this out on my HHKB once, and the controller was designed in such a way that if you pressed a seventh key the first key that you pressed in the sequence is dropped, so the controller only keeps track of the six most recently pressed keys. Lesser controllers may not handle this scenario quite as elegantly.

That, and that test may be slightly broken
Exactly.

A good example of ghosting is when pressing 2 keys at the same time, but then a third character appears out of nowhere just as though you fat-fingered it even though your actual keystroke was clean.

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Wait, do you use your feet then? Sorry. I just had to say that. It would be because you'd be all cooped up in a chair trying to coordinate your feet and hands so they don't hit each other. It would be funny if somebody can type something like 100 wpm with their feet. I would love to see that.
lol!

That is all.

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I think the problem was that NKRO reminds people of math, and also the term "ghosting" makes boards like Razers sound better. It really has 2KRO still, but they can say it has "anti-ghosting" to prevent blocked keys. To the average idiot who is reading the description, this makes a lot more sense then trying to use the proper terminology.

At a certain point, all we're doing is confusing people by saying the term ghosting is wrong. It's not like any modern keyboard really has the true ghosting issue anyways.
Not only this, but the term "ghosting" sounds cool. heh
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Anyone have any expierence with this mechanical keyboard? If so what are your thoughts.
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