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EDIT: nevermind


Let's see what switches I've heard of...
Cherry MX Blue/Black/Brown/White, ML Black, more...?
Black/White Alps and imitators
Model M buckling spring and imitators

Any others out there?
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If you've got a microcenter near you they carry the Das, which has Cherry Blues.

Do you know which board you used? At least maybe if we can figure out those switches we can find something that uses them (or is close).
Does all Microcenter have the Das? I've never been to one, but there is one in Tustin/Santa Ana which is about 30 mins from where I live. I'll probably drive down there today if holiday traffic isn't hectic from and to the OC.

I don't what board I used, but it's very old bought back in 1998-99. It was a generic brand, I believe, but it had a very good feel to it when typing. I know for sure it was clicky, but not sure what kind of switch it used. I watched that video from hot hardware and it does sound like the third keyboard which is the M10.
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
Let's see what switches I've heard of...
Cherry MX Blue/Black/Brown/White, ML Black, more...?
Black/White Alps and imitators
Model M buckling spring and imitators

Any others out there?
Those, and Cherry MY's, are by far the most common ones, and pretty much the only ones you'll find on boards manufactured today AFAIK. But if you want to go back a few years to the 80's and 90's:
- SMK
- NMB
- Fujitsu
- Futaba
- NEC
- Marquardt
- Omron


And FYI, there aren't any Buckling Spring imitators per se. The license was just passed on from IBM to Lexmark to Unicomp. The mechanism - and even the entire keyboard - is still exactly the same as when it was originally made with only a few minor differences (drainage channels were added, a ribbon cable was used internally instead of a few wires on a connector, they use single-piece keycaps instead of dual-piece now, the plastic is a tiny bit thinner, and Unicomp's springs are a bit lighter).


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Does all Microcenter have the Das? I've never been to one, but there is one in Tustin/Santa Ana which is about 30 mins from where I live. I'll probably drive down there today if holiday traffic isn't hectic from and to the OC.

I don't what board I used, but it's very old bought back in 1998-99. It was a generic brand, I believe, but it had a very good feel to it when typing. I know for sure it was clicky, but not sure what kind of switch it used. I watched that video from hot hardware and it does sound like the third keyboard which is the M10.
All Microcenters? Possibly not, because at the end of the day the store makes the choice on what to keep in stock. But most likely it should be there. Hey, worst case, at least you'll get to check out the place

Yeah the M10 uses Cherry Blues, but SMKs sound pretty close too. If you really want to find the exact same switch I can point you to a couple of older (and cheaper) boards to order and try out before getting an expensive one.
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I picked up a Das Professional today... I received a gift card for Micro Center for Christmas this year and used it to pay for part of a Das Professional.... So far I like it. I'm not to worried about the rollover on it, Since I'm not that fast of a typist. I do like the feeling of the keys compared to my cheaper Filco B-Stock keyboards. The keys on the B-stock are a little heavy. This Das seems pretty smooth so far.

I think I remember seeing a post saying that this Das has blue cherry switches. (I just might have to replace my tenkeyless keyboard that is on my "Daily driver" with one that has blue cherries..)

To bad that I own 2 of the B-stock Filco's already...

It's going to be kinda weird to go back and forth between the 2 different keyboard for now.... Until I can get a Filco tenkeyless with blue cherries.


BTW- For the person that was asking if all Micro Centers carry the DAS keyboard... You can always check to see if your local store has it in stock online. Just have to pick your location. I'd to the search for the product first, then pick your store location, and finally do a refresh of your browser... It will tell you if there in stock or not then.

Here is the link to the DAS keyboard-->DAS keyboard at Micro Center
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Looks like my Gigabyte motherboards don't like the DAS keyboard that much.... Works fine on my ASUS boards and Zotac. No matter what I do with the bios setting on the gigabyte boards I cannot seem to get the DAS to work right. I need to have another keyboard with a PS2 plugged in at the same time to get it to work right. It seemed to work alright at first but I couldn't get into the bios. So I changed the setting in the bio to accept a USB keyboard and Windows 7 couldn't find the right drivers after a reboot.



And since the DAS has a USB hub, I wasn't able to get it to work with a PS2 adapter.
I should have just stuck with a brand that I know works and that didn't have a USB hub in it.

So it looks like I will be taking it back tomorrow sometime and waiting for Elite Keyboards to get some more Filco tenkeyless blue cherry keyboards in.

I was wondering what the smaller DECK keyboards have in them for switches. I see they list whats in there fullsize keyboards, but not the small form factor ones.

Well thats it for my complaining about the DAS I just got... Other than the driver problems its a nice feeling keyboard... But I'm not going to put in on a machine that I don't use that often. I would like to use it on one of the ones that I use all the time.

There! now I'm done complaining.
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Theres too many choices so I might as well ask.


I am a very fast typer, and a competitive gamer. I have a price range of ~125$, what do I buy?
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It it worth it to get some old Apple ADB keyboards and ADB to USB adapters?
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Looks like my Gigabyte motherboards don't like the DAS keyboard that much.... Works fine on my ASUS boards and Zotac. No matter what I do with the bios setting on the gigabyte boards I cannot seem to get the DAS to work right. I need to have another keyboard with a PS2 plugged in at the same time to get it to work right. It seemed to work alright at first but I couldn't get into the bios. So I changed the setting in the bio to accept a USB keyboard and Windows 7 couldn't find the right drivers after a reboot.



And since the DAS has a USB hub, I wasn't able to get it to work with a PS2 adapter.
I should have just stuck with a brand that I know works and that didn't have a USB hub in it.

So it looks like I will be taking it back tomorrow sometime and waiting for Elite Keyboards to get some more Filco tenkeyless blue cherry keyboards in.

I was wondering what the smaller DECK keyboards have in them for switches. I see they list whats in there fullsize keyboards, but not the small form factor ones.

Well thats it for my complaining about the DAS I just got... Other than the driver problems its a nice feeling keyboard... But I'm not going to put in on a machine that I don't use that often. I would like to use it on one of the ones that I use all the time.

There! now I'm done complaining.
It might simply be a problem of power delivery. Because it has a USB hub it needs more power than just a keyboard by itself. If you've got any powered hubs lying around, try connecting the keyboard to one of those first. That might fix your problem.

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Theres too many choices so I might as well ask.


I am a very fast typer, and a competitive gamer. I have a price range of ~125$, what do I buy?
Unfortunately there are just as many answers as there are choices

How would you like them to feel? Stiff or light? Sharp, soft, or no tactile bump? Do you care if anyone can hear the keyboard?

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It it worth it to get some old Apple ADB keyboards and ADB to USB adapters?
Well not all ADB keyboards were mechanical, so I assume you only mean the ones that were (like the AEKII - which had different models for different switches). But yeah if you've got a Mac, then by all means go for it.
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