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My mouse n pad is from mionix, and I really satisfied with them.. so, I trust their product very much..

As far as I know, they haven't leaked the released date yet..

I'm waiting for the review though..
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@Tator Tot: Just some thoughts on something in the guide prompted by something I read in another thread

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#KRO, where # = Any Number, is the key roll over of your board; and stands for the maximum number of keys you can press without experiencing any key blocking.

Many USB mechanical Keyboards are labeled as 6KRO, meaning any 6 keys can be pressed at once without the user experiencing blocking. This is generally enough for most users. Though a limited number of games may have a problem with 6KRO.
USB keyboards with 6KRO also allow for a maximum of 4 modifier keys to be used with those 6 normal keys. These modifiers include CTRL, ALT, Shift, & Super (Windows, Command, or Meta Key.)
Sometimes this also includes the FN key present on select keyboards.
The way I see it, there's three types of rollover -

n Key Rollover - Any number or combination of keys can be pressed simultaneously, and the computer will receive them all correctly from the keyboard.

2 Key Rollover - Any two keys can be guaranteed to be registered properly when pressed simultaneously. Beyond that, certain combinations of keys will work, and others will cause blocking (i.e. the controller deliberately drops them to prevent ghosting). The maximum number of keys that can be registered by the computer is subject to the limitations of the interface.

Interface-limited NKRO - You can press any combination of keys simultaneously, as long as the amount of keys pressed does not exceed what is allowed by the interface between the keyboard and the computer. Subsequent key presses often cause previously pressed keys to be released in order to handle the newest key press.

The xKRO terminology is used to describe the latter two arrangements, and is very misleading because it implies that they are the same problem but with a different number of keys that can be handled at once. On a PS/2 2KRO keyboard, you can press a dozen or more keys and have them register, but certain combinations will not work. On a 6KRO keyboard, you have an absolute limit of 6 keys that can be pressed at once, but within that, blocking does not occur. The dropping of keys in 6KRO isn't blocking - it's implemented for different reasons, and has different effects.

The point is, if you start mixing them around, you get people who'll think that a 2KRO keyboard can only handle two keys at once, or think that a 6KRO keyboard can deal with a certain combinations of more than 6 keys (which is what the guide seems to imply). It's important to spell out that there are a few different reasons why a keyboard may not be able to handle any combination or number of keys.
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Hello,

I am looking for a mechanical keyboard with anti-ghosting and the ability to disable the Windows key for gaming but also being able to use it as the Option key under Mac OS X.

I don't care about multimedia controls or USB pass-through and audio ports.

I was looking at 6G but the Windows key can't be used at all under OS X.

Any ideas?
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Hello,

I am looking for a mechanical keyboard with anti-ghosting and the ability to disable the Windows key for gaming but also being able to use it as the Option key under Mac OS X.

I don't care about multimedia controls or USB pass-through and audio ports.

I was looking at 6G but the Windows key can't be used at all under OS X.

Any ideas?
I was about to mention the Ducky keyboards we're selling at the moment but it's not Mac compatible :/ You're going to be hard pressed to find a keyboard that has swapped Option and Alt.
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Hello,

I am looking for a mechanical keyboard with anti-ghosting and the ability to disable the Windows key for gaming but also being able to use it as the Option key under Mac OS X.

I don't care about multimedia controls or USB pass-through and audio ports.

I was looking at 6G but the Windows key can't be used at all under OS X.

Any ideas?
There's the keyboard actually designed for use with Mac's, which is the Matias Tactile Pro III, it's a solid keyboard to get but a little expensive.

If you can find a Ducky DK9008 then that will also do what you want. The DK9008-G2 does not work under Mac OSX though, as the way the controller is designed, it conflicts with the USB_NKRO work around used by Ducky to make the keyboard do NKRO under USB.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
There's the keyboard actually designed for use with Mac's, which is the Matias Tactile Pro III, it's a solid keyboard to get but a little expensive.

If you can find a Ducky DK9008 then that will also do what you want. The DK9008-G2 does not work under Mac OSX though, as the way the controller is designed, it conflicts with the USB_NKRO work around used by Ducky to make the keyboard do NKRO under USB.
I am looking at a Filco. It supports OS X but i don't know if you can disable the Windows key (i can do it by modifying the registry but i am looking for a quicker method).

Currently i am using an Altec keyboard which i bought back in 1995 with my first PC. It is heavy, mechanical (white switches) and has a metal back-plate.
Being so old it doesn't have a Windows key and unfortunately doesn't support anti-ghosting.
It is amazing that although i use it on a daily basis all keys work perfectly and the lettering hasn't rub-off!
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I am looking at a Filco. It supports OS X but i don't know if you can disable the Windows key (i can do it by modifying the registry but i am looking for a quicker method).

Currently i am using an Altec keyboard which i bought back in 1995 with my first PC. It is heavy, mechanical (white switches) and has a metal back-plate.
Being so old it doesn't have a Windows key and unfortunately doesn't support anti-ghosting.
It is amazing that although i use it on a daily basis all keys work perfectly and the lettering hasn't rub-off!
you can use a key program changer..
itll change your keys, but it needs to be on always..
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so in the end i bought the Topre Realforce (105 UB)

i really like it, will have to get used to its layout (coming from laptop like KB) to fully appreciate its awesomeness.

i think i'll need a wrist rest, can anyone recommend one ?
Edited by elzhi - 6/2/11 at 1:08pm
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new version of TT Esports ... Meka G Unit!

switch Cherry Black tactile

2 x usb 2.0

The world’s first gaming mechanical keyboard with both on-board memory and illumination.
Normal mode / Game mode switchable. Win. key disabled in Game mode to avoid any accidental pressing
ISS (Instant Shift System) advanced macro key shifting function allows Gamer to reach all 60 macro keys within one profile.

It was launched at Computex in these days... for me is the perfect gaming keyboard!! what do you think?
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I like that it is USB.
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