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He speaks Dutch. Doesn't count.

Maybe 1% of the world's population speak Dutch if you include Indonesia.
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Dunno, the dutch get some beast tea, and I do love my tea.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
Well a few things first:
No switches are actually designed for gaming. Some consider Black's better for gaming because there is no tactility (so when you push it half way down, the switch registers it being pressed without you feeling anything.)

Deck Keyboards are some of the best you can get.
For the clears, you've got that mostly right. Though they feel "more" tactile because of the heavier weight (but the only difference really is just the spring.

They feel slightly lighter than Blacks though (as the spring is only 55G not 60G)

The best way to put in what a black feels like is you take a clicky pen and take out the part that makes it click. It's just a strait push down on every switch with no feeling besides pure resistance.
Many folks like them for this reason, as it makes them feel "heavy duty" or more durrable than the other MX-Switches (which is slightly true since they are rated at 50 Million Actuation vs the 20 & 30 million of the MX Blues and MX Browns/Clears respectively.)

A Tactile switch is like the animated pictures you see in the OP: about half way down, when the switch is being pressed down, you have a short increase in resistance (that makes the switches about 10G heavier) and thus offer a greater resistance for a short period to let you know the switch has activated.
Clears are crisper than browns. The tactility is closer to when the switch activates and less mushy. It's not perfectly exact as a buckling spring (let's be honest, all tactile and clicky cherry switches are just linear switches that were jerry-rigged in the 80s to emulate the feel of buckling springs) but the switch is not the same as a brown. The plastic shape is different. Granted them being a silent but tactile Cherry microswitch makes them much closer to Browns than anything else but they are not just a stiffer version of the browns just like Cherry Reds are not simply browns with the tactility taken out. This is why attempts to make "ghetto Clears/Reds" (they are relatively rare switch types) by sticking stiffer springs in browns /lighter ones in Blacks have a remarkably different feel from actual Clears/Reds.
Edited by Dannibal - 6/17/11 at 6:37pm
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Clears are crisper than browns. The tactility is closer to when the switch activates and less mushy. It's not perfectly exact as a buckling spring (let's be honest, all tactile and clicky cherry switches are just linear switches that were jerry-rigged in the 80s to emulate the feel of buckling springs) but the switch is not the same as a brown. The plastic shape is different. Granted them being a silent but tactile Cherry microswitch makes them much closer to Browns than anything else but they are not just a stiffer version of the browns just like Cherry Reds are not simply browns with the tactility taken out.
From disassembly pictures on GeekHack, the difference between a brown and a clear is just the spring. The top half is still the same.
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From disassembly pictures on GeekHack, the difference between a brown and a clear is just the spring. The top half is still the same.
They're not. Look closer at the shape of indentations on the actuating tab that cause the tactile feel. They're different; the browns have a little curve that results in the trademark mushiness and the cherrys have a more concave, pronounced one that leads to the crispness. Also, the actuating tab juts out a bit more on clears.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?tit...hes+and+boards
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Nice pics in that link!
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So many choices... It's so hard to decide.

I spend about 50% of my time on the computer playing wow(a lot of typing here) 20 playing other games and 30 working for my dad or school work ( a lot of typing ). Not including forum/Internet browsing, that is.

I really like the deck and das. Is there any other options worth looking at ? I have mild psoriatic arthritis, so blacks are out of the question. Clears look a little much for me, but I could probably deal with them, browns look like a good middle bur I was thinking because of my psoritiatic arthritis and working / typing a lot in wow blues wouldn't be bad either. I also don't want my wow key binds to become useless, and to be worse at fps games, however. Backlight is nice but not necessary at all because my desk has a nice 2 foot bar light with different brightness levels 3 feet above it.

Opinions on a good keyboard and/or type of switch? Any sort of help would be greatly appreciated and I hope to switch to the mechs soon

I figured it'd be best to post in here rather than make another which keyboard is right for me thread

Thanks in advance <3
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Do you have any big electronics stores in towns?

With the Razer Blackwidow at retail outlets, you can try blues. They do not feel as heavy as the specs make it seem.

If you're typing a lot, blues may be a great option for you. On the other hand, you may hate them.

Are you specifically looking for any features?
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Do you have any big electronics stores in towns?

With the Razer Blackwidow at retail outlets, you can try blues. They do not feel as heavy as the specs make it seem.

If you're typing a lot, blues may be a great option for you. On the other hand, you may hate them.

Are you specifically looking for any features?

Yes, I've got a best buy 20 mins away. That's a great idea, I'll try out the blues in store and if I like em I'll grab a board with blues off newegg or something. If not I'll try brown or clears. And I am typing a fair amount. As for features, not really other than something that wont make my wrists fall off while being able to type and play mmos well and fps' decent.
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Well proper positioning of the keyboard it self, and your monitor help as well. So keep that in mind (as a new desk may be in order if your wrists/arms really do hurt.)

Though, yes, a Razer Blackwidow or Ultimate could be a good option for you, at least to try. It's cheap with plenty of features. Though the build quality (at least in my opinion, and I did own one) is not up to snuff of the Ducky, Leopold, Filco, Deck, and Unicomp keyboards.
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