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oh really I thought the Fn key had a scan code. my apologies TwoCables. most media keys are global and play, pause, stop, forward, back, etc but don't always work in some media players and with AutoHotKey you can create separate ones for Winamp, Windows Media Player, Video LAN, etc.

I think either Das model suits your needs and you will be very happy with your purchase however you can get a refurbished Das Professional for $99 or Filco has a variety of models but the thin keycaps, silk screen printing and paint that wears off annoys me for the price.

Christine
I'd stay away from the Das Professional though, because of it's trasnposition problems.

But no, Fn keys never send scancodes to the PC, on any keyboard. They are used for a separate layer within the keyboard's controller.
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hey! that's my keyboard

it depends how fast he types.

Thank you for that piece of info.

Christine
Edited by lmnop - 2/10/10 at 7:19am
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hey! that's my keyboard

it depends how fast he types.

Thank you for that piece of info.

Christine
Well yeah, but is it worth the risk when there's a better alternative?


By the way, I might be getting rid of one of my Sonys soon. I'm hoping to get a nice 30" IPS, and depending on how things pan out I'm either going to put it on the other side of my desk (it's a giant U) or replace one of the CRTs with it. Just thought you might want to know
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Out of that whole list, the only thing you're going to have trouble with is switching around the Fn and Meta keys. Fn doesn't send any scancodes to the PC, meaning that you can't reprogram it using software. So you're going to have to do it physically: open up the keyboard, cut the traces going to it, and run wires to the ones going to the Meta key. And vice versa. On the other hand, if you get a Filco then you won't have to do this but you'd have to mod in a USB hub. So I guess you should just pick the one you feel is going to be easier to mod and go with it.
That's actually a pretty easy mod, but you'll have to destroy the OK sticker. >

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oh really I thought the Fn key had a scan code. my apologies TwoCables. most media keys are global and play, pause, stop, forward, back, etc but don't always work in some media players and with AutoHotKey you can create separate ones for Winamp, Windows Media Player, Video LAN, etc.
Aw, it's all good. I'm having fun learning all of this stuff!!
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if you're not purchasing until March you should start working on your AutoHotKey script.
hehe my script will be so simple that I'll be able to make it in about 5 or 10 minutes. I'll only need to program F8 and F11 (a Notepad document and MS Paint, respectively), and I'll only need 2 profiles: 1 with these programmed keys, and another that has no programmed keys that gets automatically selected when I open a specific game where I frequently use each of the Function keys.
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I think either Das model suits your needs and you will be very happy with your purchase however one last tip you can get a refurbished Das Professional for $99. Filco has a variety of models but the thin keycaps, silk screen printing and paint that wears off is quite annoying for the price they sell for.

the EKB rep at geekhack said they have some surprises this year I hope it's a lot better than a pink keyboard.

Christine
But that's not the Model S! Eeewwww, Christine! How could you recommend that? Err, I mean: thank you for the heads up, but I must pass. hehe
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hey! that's my keyboard

it depends how fast he types.

Thank you for that piece of info.

Christine
I type roughly 65-85 WPM, depending on what I'm typing.



Edit: I forgot about one thing: with the way I'd have to modify the Model S to suit my needs, it looks like I'm gonna have to either just take the time to get used to it, or find a keyboard that has the left WinKey and still meets all of my requirements. I don't mind if I end up with a non-mechanical keyboard, but I know myself very well: I know that I would prefer one if I knew the difference.
Edited by TwoCables - 2/10/10 at 7:56pm
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Aw, it's all good. I'm having fun learning all of this stuff!!

hehe my script will be so simple that I'll be able to make it in about 5 or 10 minutes. I'll only need to program F8 and F11 (a Notepad document and MS Paint, respectively), and I'll only need 2 profiles: 1 with these programmed keys, and another that has no programmed keys that gets automatically selected when I open a specific game where I frequently use each of the Function keys.

But that's not the Model S! Eeewwww, Christine! How could you recommend that? Err, I mean: thank you for the heads up, but I must pass. hehe

I type roughly 65-85 WPM, depending on what I'm typing.



Edit: I forgot about one thing: with the way I'd have to modify the Model S to suit my needs, it looks like I'm gonna have to either just take the time to get used to it, or find a keyboard that has the left WinKey and still meets all of my requirements. I don't mind if I end up with a non-mechanical keyboard, but I know myself very well: I know that I would prefer one if I knew the difference.
I go to liquidators all the time and have bought plenty of refurbished products. the Das Professional is refurbished by Metadot the company that sells them not a third party.

because of the tactile and audible feedback and reading comments from first time buyers mechanical keyboards add an extra 10 wpm on average. as long as you don't reach 100-120 wpm you shouldn't notice the transposition error on the Das Professional.

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I go to liquidators all the time and have bought plenty of refurbished products. the Das Professional is refurbished by Metadot the company that sells them not a third party.

because of the tactile and audible feedback and reading comments from first time buyers mechanical keyboards add an extra 10 wpm on average. as long as you don't reach 100-120 wpm you shouldn't notice the transposition error on the Das Professional.

Christine
But if I'm going to go with a Das keyboard, then I would much prefer the Model S.
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Bump for a new question: which switches does the Das Original Professional have?
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But if I'm going to go with a Das keyboard, then I would much prefer the Model S.
Metadot has a 30 day return policy. try it. it's very rare to get a bad experience with a mechanical keyboard and return it. people just fall in love with the switches. there was a thread last week here in the peripheral section about a person complaining the Fukka switches in the ABS M1 were too loud and they are louder than some of the Cherry MX switches but I think he didn't give up and ended up asking for another mechanical keyboard that was quieter.

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Bump for a new question: which switches does the Das Original Professional have?
the Das Original, Das Model S Professional and Das Model S Ultimate use Cherry MX Blue switches. the Das Model S Professional Silent uses Cherry MX Brown switches.

the difference between Professional and Ultimate models are the keycaps. Ultimate models have blanks for touch typing.

Christine
Edited by lmnop - 2/11/10 at 1:38am
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[quote=lmnop;8445254]Metadot has a 30 day return policy. try it. it's very rare to get a bad experience with a mechanical keyboard and return it. people just fall in love with the switches. there was a thread last week here in the peripheral section about a person complaining the Fukka switches in the ABS M1 were too loud and they are louder than some of the Cherry MX switches but I think he didn't give up and ended up asking for another mechanical keyboard that was quieter.[/quotes]
That's a coincidence. I know somebody who is considering the ABS M1. I'll tell him about this right now!
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the Das Original, Das Model S Professional and Das Model S Ultimate use Cherry MX Blue switches. the Das Model S Professional Silent uses Cherry MX Brown switches.

the difference between Professional and Ultimate models are the keycaps. Ultimate models have blanks for touch typing.

Christine
I know about those other differences; I was only concerned about the switches. But thank you for making sure and thank you for telling me the answer to the question at hand. I'm only considering the Original because it has a left WinKey and I can always use something like AutoHotKey to make media keys if I really need them. Plus, it sounds like AHK allows multiple profiles that switch automatically when something is opened, such as a media player!
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