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anytime

But read my post again, I edited it while you were replying.
i left too quick, I did just boot with only the ps/2 adapter plugged in and not the usb hub and now there was only 1 device not detected instead of 3 that happens when they both are.

I'm going to try it the other way around now and brb.

update:

with just the usb hub plugged in, it did the same thing. then I had to restart to get my keyboard connected and got the same single device error with them both connected.

Edited by mtbiker033 - 2/26/10 at 4:11pm
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They are rebranded Solidtek 6600's. Which use Simplified White Alps.

Edit: Almost forgot the second part. The Cherry "gold crosspoint" means the contacts inside the switch are actual gold, not the stem color. G84 means it uses ML switches.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up man.

So that SIG Board looks to be about the same as my M1. I may pick it up to see if it's any different. And possibly sell it off later.

I'm looking at a new job soon, if so, buy more hardware and launch my review site.

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i left too quick, I did just boot with only the ps/2 adapter plugged in and not the usb hub and now there was only 1 device not detected instead of 3 that happens when they both are.

I'm going to try it the other way around now and brb.

update:

with just the usb hub plugged in, it did the same thing. then I had to restart to get my keyboard connected and got the same single device error with them both connected.
I don't know then. I mean, it still works so its as if there's something extra there that's not supposed to be. I guess see what Das says.

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Ah, thanks for clearing that up man.

So that SIG Board looks to be about the same as my M1. I may pick it up to see if it's any different. And possibly sell it off later.

I'm looking at a new job soon, if so, buy more hardware and launch my review site.

+Ninjarep
There's also the SIIG minitouch if you want something a bit more compact with the same switches. But no it's nothing like the M1, that uses Black alps. These use white.

And hey feel free to throw any keyboards my way, I'll review the crap out of them for ya
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I don't know then. I mean, it still works so its as if there's something extra there that's not supposed to be. I guess see what Das says.
exactly, it works so no worries really! thanks for your help!
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It's much more beneficial than you might ever realize (or, you might realize it when it's too late). I don't know how to verbalize why it's helpful, but try to believe me when I tell you that there's a very, very, very, very good reason as to why they do it. I guess I can describe it by saying that it has to do with "muscle memory".

When I learned by the book, I had to repeat keystrokes like that over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, etc. All I can say is this: I'm glad I went through it. I'm extremely grateful for the thorough lessons. I'm extremely grateful for having a very firm foundation on which to build my typing skills. If it weren't for all of that, then I'd have a weak, hollow and fragile foundation.
OK I took note of what you said and just spent over an hour on a typing tutor program, and I'm beginning to get what you mean, my accuracy has definitely improved so far, so I'm going to try stick with it and see how it goes


On a side note, I keep pressing the space bar twice by accident, but not any other key. It happens often enough for it to become annoying, and I was hoping it would stop as I got used to the keyboard, but no luck so far! Would it feel weird to put black switch on the keyboard? Or is there another fix for this?

Perhaps it could even be fixed on the software side of things, it must be milliseconds apart as both spaces seem to appear at the same time, is there something that could do this?

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There's also the SIIG minitouch if you want something a bit more compact with the same switches. But no it's nothing like the M1, that uses Black alps. These use white.

And hey feel free to throw any keyboards my way, I'll review the crap out of them for ya
What's the difference between the Blacks & Whites?

I'll definitely have to pick it up to experience the difference though
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i have a deck legend keyboard (used for about 2month now) but the A key is not responding anymore, is there someway i can go about fixing it myself? thanks in advanced
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There is no reason you can't hit B with either hand; it's perfectly in the middle.
He's just talking about doing it by the book. The book says that B is with your left hand.

Though I hit it with my right hand too
In order to correctly follow the logic behind the reason why 5, T and G are hit with the left hand (in order to follow that physical angle on the keyboard), the 'B' key must be included too.

However, I do fully understand why it can be more efficient to use the right-index to press 'B' - especially when typing words that begin with a capital 'B' and ending with letters that are only typed with the right hand. When I think about it that way, it explains to me why ergonomic keyboards have the 'B' key on the right side. It's a very tiny nod to DVORAK. Although, I don't know what was first: ergonomic keyboards, or DVORAK.

But regardless, I learned by the book, and so I press the letter 'b' with my left index. And y'know, now that I am fully aware of it every time I type a word with the letter 'b' in it, I'm very grateful for it because it divides the work between my hands quite evenly each time.
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It actually makes no sense to always hit it with the left hand if you use left shift, as B is quite a stretch.
The proper way to do it is to use the shift of the opposite hand. So if you're hitting the letter with the left hand, you use right shift. If the letter is hit with the right hand, you use the left shift. This way you never stretch for anything.
The book I learned from taught me to use the right-shift key for the letter 'B' since it teaches pressing the 'B' key with the left hand.

What made you think that I was pressing the Left Shift key in order to press the 'B' key with my left hand? Was it because you are using the Left Shift key to press the 'B' key with your right hand?
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OK I took note of what you said and just spent over an hour on a typing tutor program, and I'm beginning to get what you mean, my accuracy has definitely improved so far, so I'm going to try stick with it and see how it goes
The more disciplined you are about learning how to type exactly as you are taught without trying to find any shortcuts, the stronger your foundation will be. It is exactly like building a house or some other kind of building: the foundation needs to be very strong, otherwise there's really no point in building anything on top of it.

If you can acquire a good book that teaches how to type as well as a stand of some kind, then you'll strengthen your foundation even more because learning how to type from a book forces you to look away from the monitor while you type. With this skill, you won't need to depend on watching what you type as it appears on the monitor; you can close your eyes and go strictly by feel. As a result, you will be able to type with your eyes closed and find it extremely easy to detect any mistakes in your typing. It becomes instinctive and it allows for faster typing.

Although, this skill is partially enabled or given by the muscle memory learning where you're told to repeat keys over and over and over. But still, it's completed by learning how to type without needing to see what you're typing. Being able to detect typographical errors by feel alone will enable you to instinctively correct mistakes as you're typing instead of correcting them because you can see that you've typed it incorrectly. So, the corrections you make while typing can happen much faster since they will be nearly instantaneous as opposed to relying upon your sight. It's almost a way to realize that the hand is truly quicker than the eye.

So, learning from software is ok, but learning from a book is superior. Otherwise, you will end up building an imperfection into your foundation that will be very difficult to fix. Or you can think of it as never learning how to ride a bicycle that doesn't have training wheels.
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On a side note, I keep pressing the space bar twice by accident, but not any other key. It happens often enough for it to become annoying, and I was hoping it would stop as I got used to the keyboard, but no luck so far! Would it feel weird to put black switch on the keyboard? Or is there another fix for this?

Perhaps it could even be fixed on the software side of things, it must be milliseconds apart as both spaces seem to appear at the same time, is there something that could do this?

I think that it's due to pressing the Spacebar too long or perhaps pressing it too hard. But I recommend testing the Spacebar by itself by tapping it with your index finger or something just to see if it's working properly. If it is, then you know that it's your physical approach. Now that I think about it, I think I did the same thing.
Edited by TwoCables - 2/26/10 at 8:01pm
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What's the difference between the Blacks & Whites?

I'll definitely have to pick it up to experience the difference though
Kind of like the difference between cherry browns and blues. The whites are clicky and have a sharper tactile bump. And they are stiffer.
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wat does the happy hacking keyboard feel like?
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