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I think the pressure sensitive keys could be a very nice feature. Shame that the games would probably need to be coded to recognize it though.

I hold the world record in thps3, and use the keyboard to play. If the sidewinder keyboard was able to be recognized as a gamepad so that the game would recognize the varied force (I.E register the arrows like the joysticks), I would be very interested to see how the ability to vary the force would affect gameplay.

I might get the sidewinder anyways just to see if I can finally have a USB keyboard that's usable, seeing I have to press more then 6 keys at times. I'm curious how the keys will register after the 6th; on the das keyboard, it just pulsed the keys, which may be fine for typing, but doesn't work at all in a game that you have to hold the key down, not just press it. It sounds like the microsoft board is using a completely different method though.
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Originally Posted by PaulHDietz View Post
Hello Keyboard Afficionados!

I'm the researcher behind the new anti-ghosting feature in Microsoft's SideWinder X4 keyboard. I just wanted to let you know that we have a new site up that discusses the ghosting issue, and it includes a simple browser-based, on-screen keyboard so you can quickly get an idea of what ghosting issues you have with your own keyboard. The front page is here:

http://www.microsoft.com/appliedscie...iGhosting.mspx

As a caveat, I should point out that a browser-based keyboard tester is limited by what keystrokes get passed up from the system through the browser. So it won't tell you everything. But it should give you a feel for the capabilities of your keyboard.

The site also includes a detailed description of what the limitations of the X4 are with respect to simultaneous key presses. I'm very pleased that we are able to provide this sort of information. It should help clear up some confusion about what is and is not possible.

By the way, I know some of you will take issue with the definition of anti-ghosting as pressed keys that fail to function correctly. I know this is not what may have been originally meant, but it is how it is currently used by the industry.

Thanks!
Sorry what? I think you came to the wrong thread, sir. This is for mechanical keyboards.


Pressing this many keys at once is not as easy as it seems. I managed to do it, and press print screen.
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See that description of Ghosting? It is incorrect! It's talking about N-Key Rollover, not Ghosting!
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so something odd happened. I booted to my Vista partition the other day and for some reason it won't allow me to log in using my FILCO. I haven't unboxed my Eclipse II yet, but it didn't want to work
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Sorry what? I think you came to the wrong thread, sir. This is for mechanical keyboards.


Pressing this many keys at once is not as easy as it seems. I managed to do it, and press print screen.
do u like ur abs m1 better or ur filco browns?
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Sorry what? I think you came to the wrong thread, sir. This is for mechanical keyboards.


Pressing this many keys at once is not as easy as it seems. I managed to do it, and press print screen.
I'm guessing you're on your Filco. On mechanical keyboards it's easy since you just need to dedicate a a diode to each key. Plus you're using PS/2.


Membrane keyboards are a completely different technology and are very difficult to make NKRO, without dedicating a circuit to each key which would be prohibitively costly. Plus it's USB, which normally has a limit of 6+4 keys.
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http://www.microsoft.com/appliedscie...Explained.mspx

This whole pages needs to be changed. This isn't Ghosting!! It's N-Key Rollover! Ghosting is when you press like 2 keys simultaneously and then get a 3rd character that you did not press at all (not even accidentally).

The description of why it's called "Ghosting" is stupid and it's made up. Sigh. Yes, I am bothered.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
http://www.microsoft.com/appliedscie...Explained.mspx

This whole pages needs to be changed. This isn't Ghosting!! It's N-Key Rollover! Ghosting is when you press like 2 keys simultaneously and then get a 3rd character that you did not press at all (not even accidentally).
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Yeah, I know. But I don't care. I feel like voicing my opinion since this Microsoft guy is here. Perhaps I will help them decide to be a leader instead of a follower in this respect.

Now people will say "No, you're wrong because Microsoft said that it's called Ghosting/Anti-Ghosting". Thanks, Microsoft.
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do u like ur abs m1 better or ur filco browns?
I like the Cherry switches a lot more.
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