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Well, I know that much. But I guess what I was trying to express is that I'm confused as to how the analogy works. Unfortunately, I don't have an interest in TVs and computer monitors.

However, if I came across a company who was exposing lies about things and showing me things that I would otherwise only find out here on OCN, then I would rather buy from that company than the others. It's a nice feeling buying from a company who shows that they know what they're talking about.
Let me explain that analogy better:
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the refresh rate
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the speed of the processor that does the "120Hz Processing"
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the frequency of any signal accepted on any input
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the frequency of the AC power

So it effectively refers to nothing. BUT manufacturers use it as "120Hz processing", when really all they're doing is doubling your framerate by adding frames that weren't there before. But still, that only takes it to 48 or 60 FPS.

Saying it's a 120Hz TV is supposed to mean that the panel is refreshed 120 times a second, and that it can accept a 120Hz input. Like when monitors were CRTs, when they said a model went up to 160Hz that meant that the PC could send a 160Hz signal to the monitor, and the monitor's vertical refresh rate (the rate at which it could display full images) was also 160Hz.
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Let me explain that analogy better:
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the refresh rate
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the speed of the processor that does the "120Hz Processing"
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the frequency of any signal accepted on any input
- 120Hz doesn't refer to the frequency of the AC power

So it effectively refers to nothing. BUT manufacturers use it as "120Hz processing", when really all they're doing is doubling your framerate by adding frames that weren't there before. But still, that only takes it to 48 or 60 FPS.

Saying it's a 120Hz TV is supposed to mean that the panel is refreshed 120 times a second, and that it can accept a 120Hz input. Like when monitors were CRTs, when they said a model went up to 160Hz that meant that the PC could send a 160Hz signal to the monitor, and the monitor's vertical refresh rate (the rate at which it could display full images) was also 160Hz.
So then it doesn't mean that anymore, correct? So they're just using the only terminology that people understand?
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So then it doesn't mean that anymore, correct? So they're just using the only terminology that people understand?
No, they came up with their own terminology because it marketed better.

People still know what a screen's refresh rate is, and that the term "120Hz" is used incorrectly. I mean, don't you?

Just like people will still most likely know that ghosting really means extra letters being sent even though the companies are using it wrong.
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No, they came up with their own terminology because it marketed better.

People still know what a screen's refresh rate is, and that the term "120Hz" is used incorrectly. I mean, don't you?

Just like people will still most likely know that ghosting really means extra letters being sent even though the companies are using it wrong.
Oh I highly doubt that. I've already found myself in a few arguments (ok, so they were passionate discussions) where I had to tell people what the differences really are, and what Ghosting really is and what NKRO is.

Thanks to all of these big companies, it seems to me that most people think Ghosting is when you can't press more than a certain amount of keys because not all of them register.
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Oh I highly doubt that. I've already found myself in a few arguments (ok, so they were passionate discussions) where I had to tell people what the differences really are, and what Ghosting really is and what NKRO is.

Thanks to all of these big companies, it seems to me that most people think Ghosting is when you can't press more than a certain amount of keys because not all of them register.
Never trust a company.

Just use them for their products.

It is sad that marketing spreads misinformation though. Because it reaches out to more people than are inspired to look up and learn the proper terminology.
    
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I heard there was a lot of issues with the Das keyboards but the new generations have been worked out? can anyone confrim this?
 
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I heard there was a lot of issues with the Das keyboards but the new generations have been worked out? can anyone confrim this?
Confirmed.

But take note that the keyboard they have listed as the "Original Das Professional" is actually the Das III, and has the transposition problems you're talking about. Only the Das S is safe.
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http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0292006

is this safe, and how would you compare it to the filco?
 
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http://microcenter.com/single_produc...uct_id=0292006

is this safe, and how would you compare it to the filco?
That is the new generation das board. I havent got a machical board - planning on it tho. All i notice, is that das is shiny and has media buttons (fn). Filco has no media buttons (could via autohotkeys) and IMO it looks better. Filco has what i need though, brown swtiches, das is blue.
    
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That is the new generation das board. I havent got a machical board - planning on it tho. All i notice, is that das is shiny and has media buttons (fn). Filco has no media buttons (could via autohotkeys) and IMO it looks better
Nope, that's the Das III. The new one is the Model S, and has an Fn key where the left meta key is supposed to be.
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