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I am very confident that you will find a mechanical keyboard that fits your needs and requirements. But I think you're right that you may need to consider switches like the Cherry MX Blacks. Or, perhaps even the Clears or the Reds. I mean, the Blacks might seem to be too much geared towards gaming and may not provide a good middle-ground between gaming and typing. However, I imagine that even the Blacks are superior for typing than Rubber Dome boards are.

But you definitely came to the right place. And y'know, I recommend also asking at http://geekhack.org. They are all about mechanical keyboards over there.
Thanks - just posted the same question at geekhack too
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Thanks - just posted the same question at geekhack too
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I'm starting to think the keyboard I want does not exist (at least as a mechanical keyboard). I'm not a great typist - I've gone beyond 2 fingers, but I certainly don't touch type. I will use it for gaming and, occasionally, for moderate typing (I'm a software engineer/programmer and sometimes work from home). What I need is:

Full 105 key UK layout. That's what I have to use at work, so I want my home keyboard to be the same.
Reasonable n-key rollover (say 5 keys min). I've had issues in some games with the 2-3 of 'normal' keyboards.
Either white/cream/silver, or with decently backlit keys. I struggle with most non-backlit black keyboards (lighter colours are OK) as I often game in lower light. I play games 'left handed', with my right hand is in the area of the number pad and cursor keys, and it's awkward when I need to use the rest of the keyboard.
From what I've read on this thread, it sounds like I'd prefer something like the Cherry Brown keys (or maybe black?).
Available in the UK.

Do you guys think I'll be able to find what I need, or should I give up on looking for a mechanical? Thanks.
Normally I'd tell someone in your position that a mechanical board isn't worth the money since a) you don't touch type and b) durability isn't really an issue. But since you're left handed and pretty much need NKRO for gaming (no keyboards are properly designed for gaming on the right end of the board), you're an exception.

The only place I know to get UK layout mechanical boards is The Keyboard Company. Unfortunately, the only NKRO boards they have are the Filcos, which are black (though they do also have Pink ones, lol).

Sorry, I just never really paid attention to the UK market.
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This thread is like the Blind Melon video where the forlorn girl in the bee outfit discovers a group of other people in bee outfits.


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Actually, to be honest I would enjoy reading your commentary on the Filco design since I'm a new (and blissfully happy) owner of the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO.

But rest assured that I carefully read this entire post, and I actually really enjoy the way you write; it's just so natural and very easy to read. Nice.
Thank you. My commentary on the Filco is just superficial and preference based, since I've never used one. In particular, I wish they offered a model with the condensed version of the insert/home/delete keys, where they're in two rows instead of three. I know a lot of people actually don't like that, but I've always felt that the blank space over the arrow keys was wasted. Condensed boards are a good compromise between full length, which prevents closer mouse placement, and tenkeyless. For some reason the keypad being there is just comforting, needed or not.

I also kinda wish they had more two-tone color options, heh. I would love a black keyboard with coffee-brown keys. The Italian Red is neat lookin, but not a good color for mood. Coffee-brown keys with um, soft white character-only backlighting. Why yes, I've had quite a bit of java today.
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If you're pretty sure you'll like Cherry Browns I won't argue. But a lot of people tend to go for them just because they're not clicky, and then find out that they prefer a switch with more precise tactility
Manyak and Twocables, I think your point about Cherry blue vs brown is spot-on. The browns are a "safe" choice. As I sat with the filco on my screen, a little voice sounding oddly like John Wayne kept chastising me for not going blue. The Duke liked his keyboards; little known fact.

Oh, and the only nightmarish aspect of all this has been the lack of finding something satisfying. The process itself is fun. I kinda like having all the keyboards. Sometimes I take them out and polish them. Not really. So far as anyone knows.

I honestly believe that the keyboard has contributed to human progress as much as any invention of the past thousand years, on par with the printing press and antiseptic.
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This thread is like the Blind Melon video where the forlorn girl in the bee outfit discovers a group of other people in bee outfits.
lol I remember that video! I even remember the song and it's even running through my head right now! Yikes. And to think that the last time I heard it was probably 10 years ago or more.
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Thank you. My commentary on the Filco is just superficial and preference based, since I've never used one. In particular, I wish they offered a model with the condensed version of the insert/home/delete keys, where they're in two rows instead of three. I know a lot of people actually don't like that, but I've always felt that the blank space over the arrow keys was wasted. Condensed boards are a good compromise between full length, which prevents closer mouse placement, and tenkeyless. For some reason the keypad being there is just comforting, needed or not.
For me, I like having the keypad there because I use its Insert key for certain things in games such as performing a 180° turn in Mirror's Edge. I also use the Enter key on the Keypad for when I want to press Enter while I'm using the mouse. So, all I have to do is extend my thumb over and press it. I don't even have to move my hand that much at all. I use that maneuver to press Enter nearly every single day. But oddly enough, I navigate mostly with the keyboard, so it's not like I'm always using the mouse.
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I also kinda wish they had more two-tone color options, heh. I would love a black keyboard with coffee-brown keys. The Italian Red is neat lookin, but not a good color for mood. Coffee-brown keys with um, soft white character-only backlighting. Why yes, I've had quite a bit of java today.
I suppose that if you ended up finding a keyboard you feel is the best option but yet doesn't offer the colors that you would like, then you could always paint them. Keyboard modding is actually about as common as case modding (although I haven't modded a single case or a single keyboard my whole life).
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Manyak and Twocables, I think your point about Cherry blue vs brown is spot-on. The browns are a "safe" choice. As I sat with the filco on my screen, a little voice sounding oddly like John Wayne kept chastising me for not going blue. The Duke liked his keyboards; little known fact.
Yeah, because as I'm finding, the Cherry MX Blues are quite special. I still remember watching YouTube videos of keyboards with the Cherry MX Blues and comparing them to videos of people typing on boards with the Browns: every time I heard that crisp and subtle click of the Blue switches, I think my heart would flutter or something. I almost turned into a fruitcake and said "Be still, my heart". But the Browns never did that. Those boards just sounded boring to me, so I'm very, very, very, very glad that I went with the Tactile Click instead of the Tactile Touch. This is just the best keyboard that I have ever used. Every keystroke is pure typing bliss both for the tactile feed back and the auditory feedback of the click. :
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Oh, and the only nightmarish aspect of all this has been the lack of finding something satisfying. The process itself is fun. I kinda like having all the keyboards. Sometimes I take them out and polish them. Not really. So far as anyone knows.
I think what's awesome here is all of the experience you've gained. So now if/when you get a good mechanical keyboard, you will truly and absolutely know how much better they are. You'll be able to describe it better than most of us could ever hope to. Somebody will be able to come here asking if they should make the switch, and then you'll be able to start by saying, "Well, let me tell you a little story and then we'll see what you think".
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I honestly believe that the keyboard has contributed to human progress as much as any invention of the past thousand years, on par with the printing press and antiseptic.
hehe "and antiseptic". I wish I had a clever one to add.
Edited by TwoCables - 3/14/10 at 11:30am
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So I received my filco blue yesterday and I absolutely love this thing. Best keyboard I have owned. Great for gaming too! The keyboard really isnt that loud as long as you learn not to bottom out.
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I finally swapped the black Esc key for the Red one, and I'm surprised: it made a much bigger difference to the board's appearance than I thought it would! Wow! I really like it.

I waited on purpose so that I would be able to appreciate it more. I mean, I've had this keyboard since this past Tuesday!
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So I received my filco blue yesterday and I absolutely love this thing. Best keyboard I have owned. Great for gaming too! The keyboard really isnt that loud as long as you learn not to bottom out.
Nice! Now it's time to update your sig rig!

I also love how you skillfully summarized everything I've been saying in just 29 words. Nice! hehe It's true, though: that bottoming out sound is louder than the click of the switch(es).
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Normally I'd tell someone in your position that a mechanical board isn't worth the money since a) you don't touch type and b) durability isn't really an issue. But since you're left handed and pretty much need NKRO for gaming (no keyboards are properly designed for gaming on the right end of the board), you're an exception.

The only place I know to get UK layout mechanical boards is The Keyboard Company. Unfortunately, the only NKRO boards they have are the Filcos, which are black (though they do also have Pink ones, lol).

Sorry, I just never really paid attention to the UK market.
Thanks, I've been looking at the Filcos. Maybe I can find a set of white/cream keys and swap them

My backup plan is the Microsoft Sidewinder X4, which is backlit and claims to handle 26 simultaneous key presses. I guess I'd have to try it and see if it handles the keys I need, but I'm sure it's not mechanical. Still, I was happy enough typing on a cheap Cherry G83 keyboard even though I'm sure the Filco would be nicer. (I can't stand typing on my Razer Tarantula, and can't see the keys in dim light, but at least it handles multiple key presses OK!).
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Or you could try having someone ship you an Adesso MKB-135B. It has NKRO and retails for ~$70 here in the states. Call it $20-$30 for shipping... Might be worthwhile?
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I finally swapped the black Esc key for the Red one, and I'm surprised: it made a much bigger difference to the board's appearance than I thought it would! Wow! I really like it.

I waited on purpose so that I would be able to appreciate it more. I mean, I've had this keyboard since this past Tuesday!

Nice! Now it's time to update your sig rig!

I also love how you skillfully summarized everything I've been saying in just 29 words. Nice! hehe It's true, though: that bottoming out sound is louder than the click of the switch(es).
Hahah will do!

One other thing I got to mention was how good the service was at elitekeyboards. They shipped it pretty fast and the packing job they did was excellent. The keyboard box was wrapped in the thick packing wrapping paper (like a big paper bag) and was secured in the box with additional cardboard spacers and of course packing peanuts. Very happy with the service from them!
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