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I will keep those in mind when it comes time to do so.

Also as a minor update, idk how i feel about gaming with tactile feedback feels a bit weird i will have to get used to it.
 
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Ok it has arived, haha this thing is loud people are going to be able to hear me typing through out the house but that is alright.
I highly recommend typing extremely gently. Get used to just touching the keys as opposed to pressing them. By this, I mean pretend like the keyboard is extremely fragile. Or pretend like you have somebody trying to sleep 3 feet away from the keyboard in the same room as you. I have found that when I don't bottom out at all on this keyboard, then my typing is absolutely silent with the exception of the subtle click.

I also recommend using Notepad to practice. What I'm about to recommend will sound silly and you may even be resistant to doing it for how silly you might feel, but just type whatever comes to your head in Notepad. Literally. Just type anything. Pretend like you're writing a journal or a diary or something. But the point is to just practice. If you need help getting started, then just talk about the keyboard inside of Notepad. But while doing it, try typing as gently as you can physically type. Force yourself to type so gently that you start making mistakes and so that you start missing letters because you're not pressing hard enough. But above all: you must type slowly for now in order to learn how to avoid bottoming out.

Another way to get yourself to type super-gently is to pretend like you're extremely happy. I mean, I have noticed that when I'm not so happy, I tend to bottom out every single keystroke because I'm basically yelling with my keyboard. Otherwise, it's really easy to remember to type so gently, that I never bottom out any of the keys.
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First thoughts? this thing feels wonderful. I can see how people say it is much easier to type on, i am definatly going to have to get used to the noise, i am also used to bottoming out its kind of hard for me to type soft since i am so used it. I must say though i love the sound. This thing is as solid as a rock. anyone who was having any doubts of getting one i suggest you change your mind. If you mind the noise though this thing is a bit noisy i must say, ahahaha i cant stop typing... anyway
I know how you feel about not being able to stop typing. I'm constantly looking for excuses to type now. I hate to admit this, but I came up with the idea of using Notepad by my desire to find an excuse to type. All of the sudden I found myself typing in Notepad. I will just sit and type anything and everything that comes to my head. I've done that 2 days in a row now, and the end result is that I am already bottoming out much less now. I'd say that I bottom out about 25% of the time. Actually, my hands are really nice and warm right now (and dry too), so I'm pretty much not bottoming out at all at this moment. Well, I'm also really calm too (partly because this keyboard makes me happy).

I also know how you feel about being so used to bottoming out. When I typed on this keyboard for the first time, I found it nearly impossible to type this gently. I mean, I just didn't know how to do it. But I discovered that all it takes is a little bit of forced practice. But I also have to force myself to type slower so that I can focus on not bottoming out. You see, I know that the more and more I do this, the faster and faster I will become and typing on this keyboard without bottoming out. The key is to gradually reprogram my muscle memory so that I no longer have to think about it.
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Overall I love this thing it is so much easier for me to type. Thing is heavy, so if anyone ever try's to break into my house i already have my weapon of choice
hehe you could put a sign on your door that says, "Warning: I have a Filco Majestouch and I know how to use it."
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it feels like i am typing on a type writer and i have always enjoyed that sound.
Fortunately, this keyboard is dead silent in comparison to a typewriter.
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I think now i am going to do my homework which involves typing a paper up man i just wanna bash on these keys all damn day IT WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY.
And again, if you ever just feel like typing, then open Notepad and go for it!!
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edit: another great thing is the ps2 connector, frees up more usbs i'd never thought i would get so excited over a keyboard...
Same here. It's like I've said before: I think I am happier with my keyboard than I am with my entire computer system.
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next mission removing the escape key.
But remember: the longer you wait on that, the more you will appreciate what the red Esc key does for the appearance of this keyboard!
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Yea i love that. This thing is amazing. I don't know why i did not get it a long time ago, but then again if i did it wouldnt be as new as it is now.
lol I like that thinking! That's how I felt about going from my Lycosa to the Majestouch: I wished that I had done it sooner, but then I realized that the timing was perfect.
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That clicky sound just does something to me deep down inside, feels like my typing has a lot more feeling behind it. To bad you guys cant see the emotions behind the txt.
You're not alone there! I remember comparing YouTube videos where I had videos up of both the Tactile Click and the Tactile Touch. I liked the Tactile Touch, but every time I heard the subtle, crisp click of the Cherry MX Blues, I think it made my heart flutter or something. It is just such a satisfying sound. I remember going back to the videos of the Tactile Touch and thinking about how boring they sounded to me. And then when I finally began typing on my new Tactile Click for the first time, I got that feeling all over again, except it was a bit intensified since it was for real this time! I have to admit that one of the reasons I have such a strong desire to be able to type without bottoming out at all is so that I can isolate that wonderful click!!
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Good thing is if i do end up typing light is isnt as loud when it bottoms out so if i wanted to be semi silent it will allow me 2.
When I was shopping for keyboards, one of my requirements was a dead silent keyboard - like those dead silent laptops. I mean, I need to be very stealthy most days out of every week, so this requirement absolutely had to be met. But fast forward to today: when I'm not bottoming out on this keyboard (or if I'm just gently bottoming out), it is absolutely quiet enough for me to be as stealthy as I need it to be. That subtle click is just loud enough for me, and for me only.

In other words: this keyboard meets my strict requirements for sound.
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The only problem i see for the near future is my talk button is caps lock and as i have read the keys fade to a shiny black (which is fine with me as long as the lettering does not rub off, but my caps lock will be the first thing to go shiny.
The lettering will eventually rub off and I also heard that these keys should become shiny, but fortunately, that should take a long time to happen since all that's needed is 50 grams of force on each key. That's approximately the weight of 50 paperclips!

But when it does happen, it's nice to know that we can buy identical replacement keycaps from Elite Keyboards for only $35 before shipping:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...id=fkb10487prn

Or, blank ones for $31:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...s&pid=fkb10487

Be sure to include the keycap puller for $4.00:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...aps&pid=pls118



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I will keep those in mind when it comes time to do so.

Also as a minor update, idk how i feel about gaming with tactile feedback feels a bit weird i will have to get used to it.
I know what you mean. It's different. But once you are used to it, I think you'll find that you like it much better than any of those rubber dome membrane boards.
Edited by TwoCables - 3/18/10 at 10:13pm
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I highly recommend typing extremely gently. Get used to just touching the keys as opposed to pressing them. By this, I mean pretend like the keyboard is extremely fragile. Or pretend like you have somebody trying to sleep 3 feet away from the keyboard in the same room as you. I have found that when I don't bottom out at all on this keyboard, then my typing is absolutely silent with the exception of the subtle click.

I also recommend using Notepad to practice. What I'm about to recommend will sound silly and you may even be resistant to doing it for how silly you might feel, but just type whatever comes to your head in Notepad. Literally. Just type anything. Pretend like you're writing a journal or a diary or something. But the point is to just practice. If you need help getting started, then just talk about the keyboard inside of Notepad. But while doing it, try typing as gently as you can physically type. Force yourself to type so gently that you start making mistakes and so that you start missing letters because you're not pressing hard enough. But above all: you must type slowly for now in order to learn how to avoid bottoming out.

Another way to get yourself to type super-gently is to pretend like you're extremely happy. I mean, I have noticed that when I'm not so happy, I tend to bottom out every single keystroke because I'm basically yelling with my keyboard. Otherwise, it's really easy to remember to type so gently, that I never bottom out any of the keys.

I know how you feel about not being able to stop typing. I'm constantly looking for excuses to type now. I hate to admit this, but I came up with the idea of using Notepad by my desire to find an excuse to type. All of the sudden I found myself typing in Notepad. I will just sit and type anything and everything that comes to my head. I've done that 2 days in a row now, and the end result is that I am already bottoming out much less now. I'd say that I bottom out about 25% of the time. Actually, my hands are really nice and warm right now (and dry too), so I'm pretty much not bottoming out at all at this moment. Well, I'm also really calm too (partly because this keyboard makes me happy).

I also know how you feel about being so used to bottoming out. When I typed on this keyboard for the first time, I found it nearly impossible to type this gently. I mean, I just didn't know how to do it. But I discovered that all it takes is a little bit of forced practice. But I also have to force myself to type slower so that I can focus on not bottoming out. You see, I know that the more and more I do this, the faster and faster I will become and typing on this keyboard without bottoming out. The key is to gradually reprogram my muscle memory so that I no longer have to think about it.

hehe you could put a sign on your door that says, "Warning: I have a Filco Majestouch and I know how to use it."

Fortunately, this keyboard is dead silent in comparison to a typewriter.

And again, if you ever just feel like typing, then open Notepad and go for it!!

Same here. It's like I've said before: I think I am happier with my keyboard than I am with my entire computer system.

But remember: the longer you wait on that, the more you will appreciate what the red Esc key does for the appearance of this keyboard!

lol I like that thinking! That's how I felt about going from my Lycosa to the Majestouch: I wished that I had done it sooner, but then I realized that the timing was perfect.

You're not alone there! I remember comparing YouTube videos where I had videos up of both the Tactile Click and the Tactile Touch. I liked the Tactile Touch, but every time I heard the subtle, crisp click of the Cherry MX Blues, I think it made my heart flutter or something. It is just such a satisfying sound. I remember going back to the videos of the Tactile Touch and thinking about how boring they sounded to me. And then when I finally began typing on my new Tactile Click for the first time, I got that feeling all over again, except it was a bit intensified since it was for real this time! I have to admit that one of the reasons I have such a strong desire to be able to type without bottoming out at all is so that I can isolate that wonderful click!!

When I was shopping for keyboards, one of my requirements was a dead silent keyboard - like those dead silent laptops. I mean, I need to be very stealthy most days out of every week, so this requirement absolutely had to be met. But fast forward to today: when I'm not bottoming out on this keyboard (or if I'm just gently bottoming out), it is absolutely quiet enough for me to be as stealthy as I need it to be. That subtle click is just loud enough for me, and for me only.

In other words: this keyboard meets my strict requirements for sound.

The lettering will eventually rub off and I also heard that these keys should become shiny, but fortunately, that should take a long time to happen since all that's needed is 50 grams of force on each key. That's approximately the weight of 50 paperclips!

But when it does happen, it's nice to know that we can buy identical replacement keycaps from Elite Keyboards for only $35 before shipping:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...id=fkb10487prn

Or, blank ones for $31:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...s&pid=fkb10487

Be sure to include the keycap puller for $4.00:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...aps&pid=pls118




I know what you mean. It's different. But once you are used to it, I think you'll find that you like it much better than any of those rubber dome membrane boards.
Beautiful response. For the next few weeks its going to be amazing to be able to sit down on my computer and it feel brand new again with this keyboard. They only sucky thing is now, i am turned of to all other keyboards so when i go to work tomorrow and type on that crusty keyboard it is going to be very disappointing but when i get home its going to make me enjoy my keyboard even more.
 
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Beautiful response. For the next few weeks its going to be amazing to be able to sit down on my computer and it feel brand new again with this keyboard. They only sucky thing is now, i am turned of to all other keyboards so when i go to work tomorrow and type on that crusty keyboard it is going to be very disappointing but when i get home its going to make me enjoy my keyboard even more.
To be honest, I bet that I would find a way to start bringing my keyboard to and from work. Although, I wouldn't be so hot on the idea of wearing out the plug like that.
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hopefully maybe one day towards the near future if filco could release one a bit more i guess lets say cheaply made, but still have this great feel.

God i feel like going into a courtroom and be that person sitting in the middle of the room with this keyboard and a bitty monitor just typing everything they are saying!!!!!
 
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hopefully maybe one day towards the near future if filco could release one a bit more i guess lets say cheaply made, but still have this great feel.

God i feel like going into a courtroom and be that person sitting in the middle of the room with this keyboard and a bitty monitor just typing everything they are saying!!!!!
lol oh man, I so have the same love for this keyboard. That's what made me open up Notepad a couple of days ago so that I could just type whatever came to my mind. I figured it was a much better alternative to finding a chat room.
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Oh. So then I gladly stand corrected. I honestly believed that if I had learned from software, then I'd depend on the output I can see on the monitor as opposed to the feel. I mean, I thought that learning from a text book gave me a valuable skill that just can't be obtained when using software that forces you to watch the monitor while you type. But what I think I'm forgetting is that most typing tutor software forces you to look away from your typing output while you're typing. After all, how else are you going to type the things it's asking you to type? lol
Most of them, but not the first one I used. It put the characters you typed one line below the characters you were supposed to type and then would put it in red if it was wrong. TBH that was kind of crippling. That was when I was pretty young. A few years later I started learning from an old book, it was like a full size notebook with a stand so you have to look at it and type the letters. That helped a lot, and tbh I highly recommend learning at least partly that way.

Mavis Beacon FTL.

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Ok it has arived, haha this thing is loud people are going to be able to hear me typing through out the house but that is alright.

First thoughts? this thing feels wonderful. I can see how people say it is much easier to type on, i am definatly going to have to get used to the noise, i am also used to bottoming out its kind of hard for me to type soft since i am so used it. I must say though i love the sound. This thing is as solid as a rock. anyone who was having any doubts of getting one i suggest you change your mind. If you mind the noise though this thing is a bit noisy i must say, ahahaha i cant stop typing... anyway


Overall I love this thing it is so much easier for me to type. Thing is heavy, so if anyone ever try's to break into my house i already have my weapon of choice

it feels like i am typing on a type writer and i have always enjoyed that sound. I think now i am going to do my homework which involves typing a paper up man i just wanna bash on these keys all damn day IT WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY.

edit: another great thing is the ps2 connector, frees up more usbs i'd never thought i would get so excited over a keyboard...

next mission removing the escape key.
Lol yea. My first impression was "eew its clacky...gosh I feel like a nerd", but then after playing with it for a while (before I plugged it in, I was at a friends house) it started to get addicting. I really don't know why, but it just felt addicting to type on.

TBH I don't really care about the noise, but they are so much louder than rubber dome keyboards that everyone around you, or anyone that comes over can't help commenting on the loud clacky keyboard. To which I have to explain the whole idea of mechanical keyswitches and how they are actually good .

*edit* just missed your post...
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lol oh man, I so have the same love for this keyboard. That's what made me open up Notepad a couple of days ago so that I could just type whatever came to my mind. I figured it was a much better alternative to finding a chat room.
LOL. Maybe you should start keeping a journal
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i'm sorry but $35 for those keycaps is to much. the keycaps used on the Filco are no better than Logitech. thin polystyrene that are pad printed and the genius who ordered them thought it be a good idea to spray the entire keycap with a protective coating. for $30 you can order brand new set of Cherry POM keycaps that are Double Shot from Asia or you can do what I mentioned earlier and order a used Cherry keyboard off eBay and not only harvest the keycaps but the switches as well.

Christine
Edited by lmnop - 3/19/10 at 12:12am
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Most of them, but not the first one I used. It put the characters you typed one line below the characters you were supposed to type and then would put it in red if it was wrong. TBH that was kind of crippling. That was when I was pretty young. A few years later I started learning from an old book, it was like a full size notebook with a stand so you have to look at it and type the letters. That helped a lot, and tbh I highly recommend learning at least partly that way.

Mavis Beacon FTL.
Yep! Even though some software can be pretty good, I will never stop recommending using a good text book.
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Lol yea. My first impression was "eew its clacky...gosh I feel like a nerd", but then after playing with it for a while (before I plugged it in, I was at a friends house) it started to get addicting. I really don't know why, but it just felt addicting to type on.

TBH I don't really care about the noise, but they are so much louder than rubber dome keyboards that everyone around you, or anyone that comes over can't help commenting on the loud clacky keyboard. To which I have to explain the whole idea of mechanical keyswitches and how they are actually good .
This makes me even happier that I'm getting good at not bottoming out. Now I won't have people going, "dude.... what's up with your loud keyboard?" Instead, they might say "oooo I love that crisp click sound your keyboard makes".
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*edit* just missed your post...


LOL. Maybe you should start keeping a journal
lol the thought had crossed my mind while I was doing it. I mean, doing that made me feel kinda good, so then I thought that perhaps I should keep a journal. I guess now I have an idea of why people keep a diary or a journal. It's kinda therapeutic.
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i'm sorry but $35 for those keycaps is to much. the keycaps used on the Filco are no better than Logitech. thin polystyrene that are pad printed and the genius who ordered them thought it be a good idea to spray the entire keycap with a protective coating. for $30 you can order brand new set of Cherry POM keycaps that are Double Shot from Asia or you can do what I mentioned earlier and order a used Cherry keyboard off eBay and not only harvest the keycaps but the switches as well.

Christine
Yeah well maybe some people would prefer to have the original, identical keycaps that their Majestouch came with.
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lol the thought had crossed my mind while I was doing it. I mean, doing that made me feel kinda good, so then I thought that perhaps I should keep a journal. I guess now I have an idea of why people keep a diary or a journal. It's kinda therapeutic.
Maybe it was inspired by the most awesome notebook ever and a $100 ball point pen back in the day .

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Yeah well maybe some people would prefer to have the original, identical keycaps that their Majestouch came with.
But this is OCN. Stock sucks .
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