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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Yep! Even though some software can be pretty good, I will never stop recommending using a good text book.

This makes me even happier that I'm getting good at not bottoming out. Now I won't have people going, "dude.... what's up with your loud keyboard?" Instead, they might say "oooo I love that crisp click sound your keyboard makes".

lol the thought had crossed my mind while I was doing it. I mean, doing that made me feel kinda good, so then I thought that perhaps I should keep a journal. I guess now I have an idea of why people keep a diary or a journal. It's kinda therapeutic.

Yeah well maybe some people would prefer to have the original, identical keycaps that their Majestouch came with.
I don't think people who purchase a mechanical keyboard have any intention of letting it rot they belong to a special group of people whether they care to admit it or not. there are a lot of Filco owners at geekhack and a lot of them have a Filco altered in some shape or form. once you get over the shock and awe of your purchase you will move on to bigger and better.

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I've always had a thing for keyboards ever since i got into computers. I remember one time i was at a lan center and i really liked the keyboards there ( i was young at the time maybe 12 or 13 or so) and i liked they way they sounded, so i went up to the guy and said, Hey where did you get those keyboards from i like the way they sound. He was like dude your weird its just a 5 dollar keyboard and i dont remember where i got them from. I wanted him to trip over a chair and fall face first when he called me weird. To bad i was only 12 and i couldn't really talk smack, for one it probably wouldn't of sounded right and for 2 i liked that LAN center.

My curiousity now is if these will come back and maybe start coming with standard computers that you buy from the store, if they doing maybe cost would go down and i could own a whole collection of them.
 
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Maybe it was inspired by the most awesome notebook ever and a $100 ball point pen back in the day .
"This is the best damn pen I've ever used. I think I'll write with it every single day. But since I don't know what to write, I'll just write whatever comes to my mind"

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But this is OCN. Stock sucks .
I was referring to replacing the keys with the ones available from Elite Keyboards.
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I don't think people who purchase a mechanical keyboard have any intention of letting it rot they belong to a special group of people whether they care to admit it or not. there are a lot of Filco owners at geekhack and a lot of them have a Filco altered in some shape or form. once you get over the shock and awe of your purchase you will move on to bigger and better.

Christine
Yep. I understand all of this. But I was referring to replacing the keycaps with the ones available at Elite Keyboards when the printing fades and the keys become shiny. I was saying that perhaps some people might actually prefer to stick with those keycaps.
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OK I took note of what you said and just spent over an hour on a typing tutor program, and I'm beginning to get what you mean, my accuracy has definitely improved so far, so I'm going to try stick with it and see how it goes
So, have you stuck with it? hehe If so, then how are you doing so far?
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On a side note, I keep pressing the space bar twice by accident, but not any other key. It happens often enough for it to become annoying, and I was hoping it would stop as I got used to the keyboard, but no luck so far! Would it feel weird to put black switch on the keyboard? Or is there another fix for this?

Perhaps it could even be fixed on the software side of things, it must be milliseconds apart as both spaces seem to appear at the same time, is there something that could do this?

Now that I have the Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO, I know exactly what you're talking about. So, I think I would call this the Lazy Finger Syndrome (or LFS for short, hehe). I've noticed that when I'm extra tired or when I'm trying too hard to not bottom out, I'll sometimes hold down a key for too long and end up with more than 1 instance of that character. It happens the most often when I'm typing slowly. I mean, I sometimes type slowly on purpose just to enjoy the keyboard a little more. I like the sound and the feel, so why not go a little slower to savor every keystroke, right? But if I go at a comfortable pace where I'm typing at a speed in between my slowest and fastest, then it's very unlikely that I'll end up with 2 or more repeats of the same character right in a row due to LFS.

So yeah, I'm also really curious to see how this is going too. The same thing happens to me sometimes, but it usually happens when I'm typing too carefully. But if I just bounce off the keys and avoid lingering on any key, then I always have no repeats.
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my computer classes in elementary school were 40 minute typing lessons every day and I hated it, my computer teacher was a **** but after reading how much you guys struggle with the basics I guess I am thankful.

soldering in a heavier switch is common but people don't do it to learn not to bottom out they do it because of accidental key presses. light force switches are easier to not bottom out on. mouser is the place you want to order from because they don't have any minimum orders like digikey.

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i'm sorry but $35 for those keycaps is to much. the keycaps used on the Filco are no better than Logitech. thin polystyrene that are pad printed and the genius who ordered them thought it be a good idea to spray the entire keycap with a protective coating. for $30 you can order brand new set of Cherry POM keycaps that are Double Shot from Asia or you can do what I mentioned earlier and order a used Cherry keyboard off eBay and not only harvest the keycaps but the switches as well.

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We require more Vespene Gas.

Saw the word harvest and that came up in my mind for reason.

Anyways, where can I order some new Cherry POM key caps? I wouldn't mind buying new set or two. The stock Filco key caps do feel on the flimsy side.
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So, my Cherry G84-4100PPAUS arrived today. I actually didn't know what it was at first, since it came in an envelope instead of a package. First impression: This thing is TINY. I mean, you don't realize just how small this keyboard really is until you see it. I think it might actually have less surface area than my standard-size mousepad. It's smaller than a letter size piece of paper. I cannot overstate how small this keyboard's footprint is. It is ridiculously small.

The switches, Cherry ML Black... Eh. They're nothing special. About like a high-end scissor switch, or a brand new, off-the-machinery high-end rubber dome. It has more tactile feel though, but it's very rounded. Also, if you press a key on its edge it "sticks" just a little bit. Not enough to be a huge issue, but it is there. It's also very quiet, even bottoming out isn't that loud, and it's fairly easy not to bottom out. The key spacing is smaller than standard, but manageable; it took me about thirty seconds to adjust. The layout is decent, but some keys have odd placement. For instance, I wish they'd put the Del key up next to Backspace, instead of down by Alt. There are a few other gaffes like that, but I think I could get used to it.

Overall, it's still fairly pleasant to type on, but can't hold a candle to the M.


Haven't tried gaming on it yet, but so far I think that my original speculation that the short travel time would be good for gaming is correct. The rollover is fairly good, 2KRO and fleshed out around the WASD cluster. I tried most of the main "complex" gaming combinations and they all pass. But I don't think it's the standard IBM matrix.


Overall I think it's a good little keyboard, especially for what I paid ($16.50 shipped, I think up to $25 would be fair). Good for gaming due to the short travel and small footprint, and I think this would make a good travel keyboard so I don't have to use a rubberdome while away from home. I could even see myself taking this to school if we used computers enough for it to be worthwhile.

So far, good impressions all around.
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they are certainly cute keyboards. I think they are Cherry's answer to scissor switches.

this is cool I didn't know Filco had a model with ML switches.



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If they used a keyboard like this in a netbook, I would be very pleased.
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If they used a keyboard like this in a netbook, I would be very pleased.
I don't think you would be able to fit it in a netbook, but probably a normal laptop.
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