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As someone obsessed with keyboards, I had no less than three backups within arms reach.

I'm pretty sad about it. My first mechanical board ever. It was a big moment. I have it on my desk and I'm playing make-believe computer with it, but it's just not the same...sniffle.

I bought it through Buy.com, but it was a vendor selling through them called ErgoGeek. The box they sent me had been opened. Sent them a mail, but who knows how they handle such things. I kinda hope they just give me a refund so I can buy a Filco.

Normally ErgoGeek is pretty good about this stuff.

But yeah, this is why it's normally best to just go for a high quality board. Though that doesn't always mean it has to be really expensive (take Model Ms for example).
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Normally ErgoGeek is pretty good about this stuff.

But yeah, this is why it's normally best to just go for a high quality board. Though that doesn't always mean it has to be really expensive (take Model Ms for example).


You don't realize how cheap other boards are till you get your hands on a mechanical, i really want to try some brown switches to see how those are. Im curious to see how i would feel without the click, and how sturdy it still feels. Is there any cheaply made brown switches somewhere?
 
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You don't realize how cheap other boards are till you get your hands on a mechanical, i really want to try some brown switches to see how those are. Im curious to see how i would feel without the click, and how sturdy it still feels. Is there any cheaply made brown switches somewhere?
Compaq MX 11800, on ebay

Recently it's gone up quite a bit in price on average, but I got one for like $25.
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I like the board otherwise, from what I can tell. I guess I gambled on iOne fixing the QC issues. Even following the "buy quality rather than save" rule, it's still a $60 keyboard. It isn't like I bought an $8 board off a street vendor.

I chose the M10 largely due to the price, but I liked the slightly different click compared to the Filco as well. If I could trust it, I would prefer a working M10 as a starter. I'll let fate decide.
    
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Yeah I have stuck with the touch typing so far! In fact, I've gone far enough that I've actually forgotten how to type like I used to, but I'm still not back up to the speed I was at. So still typing slower than normal at the moment but it feels a lot more natural and nicer so I don't mind, plus having a Filco makes being slow a lot less painful
hehe amen to that! For the first time in my life since learning how to touch type, I'm actually finding myself typing a little bit slower on purpose just so I can savor every last keystroke. Plus, of course, I am trying to master true touch typing where I'm not bottoming out every single keystroke. The style of typing that I needed to use on those rubber dome switch boards was far more bombastic and aggressive. But the style of typing needed on the Tactile Click is very different. Now it's all about finesse. Every keystroke is blissful. So I'm working towards a very polished and smooth typing technique.
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I've defiantly got the accuracy for touch typing down now, and I have a pretty stable pace going, I'm hoping that in a month or so time (OK...perhaps a bit longer ) I will be able to type over 80 words per minute. Before I started to learn I was about 55 which was pretty good considering how I was doing it now I look back!
That would be pretty sweet if you could exceed 80 WPM! I've been touch typing since at least the late 90's, and I think I max out at maybe 85 WPM. But I think I'm a little bit slow because there are many people on here who easily type over 100 WPM. But while it wouldn't surprise me to see you exceed 80 WPM, try to avoid expecting it, or you will end up really disappointed. After all, there's no way to know what you will max out at since everyone is different.
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Yeah I think you have hit the nail on the head with that one, If I'm doing well with my typing and am confident I very rarely get a double key press, but if I start to hesitate at what I'm doing then it does happen often. That's good news really though because the problem should rectify it self as I get more confident at typing.
Not only should it rectify itself, but I know now that it definitely will. I'm at a point now where the only time I make those kind of typing mistakes is either when I'm really tired, or when I'm trying too hard to type gently. I can clearly see a future where I will not be bottoming out at all, and I'll also be typing relatively perfectly.
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I like the name though - Lazy Finger Syndrome
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As someone obsessed with keyboards, I had no less than three backups within arms reach.

I'm pretty sad about it. My first mechanical board ever. It was a big moment. I have it on my desk and I'm playing make-believe computer with it, but it's just not the same...sniffle.

I bought it through Buy.com, but it was a vendor selling through them called ErgoGeek. The box they sent me had been opened. Sent them a mail, but who knows how they handle such things. I kinda hope they just give me a refund so I can buy a Filco.

Wow. What a terrible experience. Does the site even say anything about it being an Open-Box Item? I mean, I don't think it did and so my reaction here is that I want to say that it's hard for me to believe how stupid they are in selling an item like that without making sure that all 104 of the keys work.
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Whoa! Did you get him the Tactile Click NKRO, or just the plain Tactile Click? Was it also the 104-key or Tenkeyless? Either way, I really wish I had family like you. Dude. You are awesome. I mean, I have the 104-key Tactile Click NKRO, and I think I'm happier with my keyboard than I am with my entire system. I feel like I am literally savoring every single keystroke.

Oh yeah, and will this Tenkeyless Tactile Touch be your first Majestouch? Is it the NKRO version, or just the plain one?

hehe I'm all enthusiastic about mechanical keyboards now. And I've only had my Tactile Click for 8 days now.
Jeez this thread moves fast.

The Tenkeyless tactile touch is NKRO, but not the tactile click one. I game, my cousin doesn't. I don't think he really suffers a problem that NKRO remedies, or at least hearing him complain about it. He's not that smart with computers and will probably end up using the USB adapter on it anyways. He likes to write a lot for independent films and the such, so I figured he could use something good to write with. Unless he smashes his head against the keyboard as a poetic way to express anger and frustration on paper, I don't think he's really going to benefit from the full NKRO. And yes, these are my first filcos. I love my Model M, but I realized from that keyboard that softer keys are my thing, so I went with the browns.

USPS takes forever to cross the border....meaning that I have to be patient with this order......but at least it's shipping to Vancouver from California and not Florida or something crazy like that.
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One thing I like about the ML switches is bottoming out.

Someone described them as slightly heavier short-throw MX browns with a sharp spike in force at the end to "catch" your fingers before you bottom out. It's that jump at the end that I like. The travel is so short that it would otherwise be impossible to not bottom out, but that jump basically acts as a buffer and you either don't bottom out, or bottom out very softly, and either way you make very little noise. But I can still bottom out if I hit a key very hard intentionally and it makes that same clack that an MX brown makes when it bottoms out.

The short travel time and very rounded, hard to distinguish tactile bump make this not much better than a good scissor switch when it comes to typing, but it's still fairly nice. The only thing really against it is the issue where it will "catch" if you don't hit the key dead center, but I'm learning not to do that.
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yeah ML switches aren't terrible, it's just the off-center sticking that makes them annoying. And you're having trouble with small sized keys, so imagine how it would be with full width ones.
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Is there any way to fix the sticking? Say, by stabilizing the keys somehow so that any press, even if off center, pushes squarely down on the switch?
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Is there any way to fix the sticking? Say, by stabilizing the keys somehow so that any press, even if off center, pushes squarely down on the switch?
Sure, you could install a stabilizer bar on each and every key. But have fun with that one
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