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R00bin (and everyone, really),

I forgot to say one thing that I have learned the hard way: don't allow the wrists to remain planted on the desk or wrist rest while typing. By allowing the wrists to hover a little bit while typing, you give your hands and fingers complete freedom. You don't have to stretch the fingers or angle them to the side a little just to reach certain keys. All you have to do is use your arm to move your hand a little bit so that your fingers are always easily positioned right where you need them quickly and easily. It sounds like it would be slower this way, but to my surprise, it isn't!

The hovering distance can be anywhere from 1mm to about 1cm. I mean, it really doesn't have to be that much at all. The idea is to give your hands and fingers total freedom to move as opposed to keeping your hands locked in one place.

I've been touch typing for over 15 years now, and I've read several things that discuss proper ergonomics that also explain why proper ergonomics should be practiced. But for some reason, the one thing I always avoided was hovering my wrists while typing because I was afraid of fatigue. But to my surprise, it's quite the opposite. I am enjoying this way far more than my old way of keeping my wrists planted most of the time while typing.

One of those things that I read was the Microsoft Healthy Computing Guide (which I actually found in Windows 7 just now by opening the Start Menu and typing heal for "healthy computing guide"). Here's an excerpt:
Quote:
Type with your hands and wrists floating above the keyboard, so that you can use your whole arm to reach for distant keys instead of stretching your fingers.
It also discusses using a light touch which is exactly what I've been practicing this past month ever since I got my Majestouch. The end result of practicing this light touch is that I found that the icing on the cake was allowing my wrists to hover as opposed to keeping them planted on my wrist rest. And the end result of doing so is that my hands feel better while I'm typing; it's as though there's more blood circulation now or something. But it's also easier to type with a light touch and therefore it's easier to type without bottoming out.

Now, I know that some of you will be telling me that everyone is different and that what works for one person may or may not work for another, but consider this: we are all the same species. Our bodies all work the same way; our bodies all have the same mechanics. So, it really doesn't make any sense for somebody to say that it's better to for them keep their wrists planted while typing as opposed to giving the hands complete freedom to move as needed while typing. But don't get me wrong: I understand how change like this feels: it took me about 15 years and a mechanical keyboard to finally figure it out.

I personally guarantee you that it's worth practicing typing while hovering your wrists a little.
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I just rest my hands wherever. As a guitarist, I'm used to stretching my fingers oddly.
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I just rest my hands wherever. As a guitarist, I'm used to stretching my fingers oddly.
Yeah, but that's different.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Yeah, but that's different.
Of course, just pointing out... Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. I'm a guitarist with agile fingers, so I can let my wrists rest and only lift them up for keys that are very difficult to reach, while someone with less agile fingers may want to keep their wrist elevated somewhat.
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
Of course, just pointing out... Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. I'm a guitarist with agile fingers, so I can let my wrists rest and only lift them up for keys that are very difficult to reach, while someone with less agile fingers may want to keep their wrist elevated somewhat.
Well, can you deny that we're all basically built the same and we all basically work the same way and have the same basic mechanics as one another? I mean, why else would all of these guides on ergonomics say that it's best to hover the wrists while typing? Not one of these guides I've seen over the years say, "but if you prefer to keep your wrists planted, then do the following...".

When I hover my wrists while typing, I am finding that I no longer have trouble typing certain words that almost always gave me trouble. Now they just flow and are a breeze to type; they're just as easy as the easiest words for me.

But hey: I don't blame anyone for not wanting to try this. It took me over 15 years and a mechanical keyboard to finally figure it out. I mean, the result of me buying this keyboard caused me to closely examine my technique so that I could make the most out of these switches (which to my surprise I am actually doing - I thought for sure I would slack off).
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Maybe I should make clear on what I mean by resting my wrists. I'll try and get a pic when I'm back on a regular keyboard instead of this ****ty laptop.
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Maybe I should make clear on what I mean by resting my wrists. I'll try and get a pic when I'm back on a regular keyboard instead of this ****ty laptop.
Nah, it's not that important to me. I'm just saying that I'm finding out why it is recommended to hover the wrists a little bit while typing. But I think that my "old" technique was that I would more or less slide my wrists around on the wrist rest, but I never actually lifted them up; not even by 1mm.

However, some people go to the extreme of really planting their wrists down so that their hands don't move unless they absolutely, positively have no choice (such as maybe pressing Esc). So, I suppose that this is more for them than anyone. But I wasn't like that and yet it's being a massively huge benefit to my typing, so I decided to post it.
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Maybe I should make clear on what I mean by resting my wrists. I'll try and get a pic when I'm back on a regular keyboard instead of this ****ty laptop.
You need a Thinkpad!


Anyway yeah, I'm constantly switching between hovering and resting just depending on what i'm doing and how the keyboard is positioned. My desk is pretty high, so I can't really hover all the time. But when I really get going my hands will sort of naturally do it on their own without me thinking about it. I play the guitar too, so my fingers also can stretch in all sorts of ways .
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You need a Thinkpad!


Anyway yeah, I'm constantly switching between hovering and resting just depending on what i'm doing and how the keyboard is positioned. My desk is pretty high, so I can't really hover all the time. But when I really get going my hands will sort of naturally do it on their own without me thinking about it. I play the guitar too, so my fingers also can stretch in all sorts of ways .
The height of the keyboard is a great point. I'm lucky in that I have a nice keyboard tray, so all I have to do is adjust my chair height. I admit that I totally forgot that many people don't have a choice and have to have their keyboard higher than it should be.
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The height of the keyboard is a great point. I'm lucky in that I have a nice keyboard tray, so all I have to do is adjust my chair height. I admit that I totally forgot that many people don't have a choice and have to have their keyboard higher than it should be.
I've got a keyboard tray too, but I hate using it so I put it on a different side of my desk. When the keyboard tray is there I can't pull the chair up close, so I end up like 4 ft away from the monitors. There's also practically no room for a mouse on one.
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