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Been using this for years now
Lol me too =D I've had one of those for as long as I can remember, works like a charm
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post #2932 of 14551
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Originally Posted by lmnop View Post


Christine
This possibly is the worst thing to look at first thing in the morning....

In other notes, someone should make a Mouse guide. I need something to link to that explains everything so I don't have to retype it.
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post #2933 of 14551
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Originally Posted by Izvire View Post


Been using this for years now
Unfortunately it's not available in the US.
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post #2934 of 14551
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Originally Posted by rfjunkie View Post
@Manyak.... I ended up getting that Cherry brown programmable keyboard off of eBay... I had a second chance offer on it. Not sure if I will end up using it. But it gives me something to mess with for under a hundred bucks... Cherry keyboard.
Congrats

Well, worst case scenario you can always resell it
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why are topres (HHKB Pro 2) so expensive?
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post #2936 of 14551
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why are topres (HHKB Pro 2) so expensive?
Partly due to the technology used to make them, partly due to supply/demand that limits manufacturing volume, and partly due to them being able to exploit niche market customers with few options. My guess, at least.
    
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why are topres (HHKB Pro 2) so expensive?
After reading about the Realforce boards and the Happy Hacking Professional 2 boards on Elite Keyboards alone, I am left with the following impressions:
  1. The Topre switches are much more expensive than the Cherry MX series.
  2. The Topre switches are much a higher quality product than the Cherry MX series.
  3. The Topre switches are apparently 100% reliable which leads me to believe that the Cherry MX switches are not. I'm partly referring to the part where it says, "Topre's key switches have gained the acceptance of one of the world's largest airlines who use Topre keyboards exclusively for check-in counters where they require 100% reliability.", and also where it says, "Due to the VERY low incidence of failure in Topre switch-based keyboards; returns for repair ONLY will be allowed."
And then there's the list of features:
  • 60-Key modified US ANSI Layout
  • 45gram sensitivity, 4mm travel Topre Electrostatic Capacitive Key Switches
  • Dimensions: 294 x 110 x 39.9mm (11.6 x 4.3 x 1.6in)
  • Detachable USB mini-A interface, 1.8m cable included
  • Integrated USB 2.0/1.1 Hub (Current supply limited to 100mA)
  • Keyboard mode selection dip-switch
  • Weight: 530g (1 lb 3oz)
  • Made in Japan
  • Blank key version available by special order.
So the ones in bold increase the price too. But I'm left with the impression that the main factor is the switch type. I think that if these boards had the Cherry MX switches, then they wouldn't cost much more than the Majestouch boards.
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post #2938 of 14551
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The reason Topre switches are 100% reliable is because there is no physical connection that gets made (as with mechanical switches), therefore there are no parts that can wear out. The domes can still lose their feel over time (though they are still excellent quality in that regard), but they will never stop actuating.

That being said, as a consumer it's almost impossible for you to reach the point where having capacitive switches over pure mechanical ones would have made a difference (other than your preference to how they feel).
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well i guess ill just wait for the 6Gv2 or guru for my next purchase. Is there any other keyboard with the enlarged keycaps like the topre?
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post #2940 of 14551
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well i guess ill just wait for the 6Gv2 or guru for my next purchase. Is there any other keyboard with the enlarged keycaps like the topre?
I think that those keycaps on the HHKB Pro 2 look enlarged because the board is so small. Check out the 103-key Realforce:

Black: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...&pid=rf_se02b0

White/Gray: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...&pid=rf_se0200

However, the keys are definitely a different shape.
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