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I'm not shamed to admit it. I only know so much because I know many a smart folk. I ask questions and keep researching.
I was actually coming close to asking what will happen when the day comes where PS/2 is basically eliminated. But now I can see that we may have nothing to worry about. I admit that I don't really need full NKRO, but it's peace of mind as well as bragging rights!
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Yes you can, but the keyboard's controller would have to support it also. But so far all the companies who have tried can't do it 100% properly. Even MS, for example, managed to get 17 keys at once (or maybe it was 24? I can't think of the number now) but once you hit too many it starts ghosting. That is, in the real sense of the word, where it sends extra keys that you aren't actually pressing.
Was the ghosting a symptom of the matrix, as opposed to the driver? That seems more likely to me personally.

I hope someday they get it working over USB, I'd like to stop using ps/2.
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They claim it's the driver. From what I've seen the keyboard itself is NKRO; if it used PS/2 rather than USB it would behave just like an NKRO Filco. It's the Windows USB driver that causes the issue.
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Was the ghosting a symptom of the matrix, as opposed to the driver? That seems more likely to me personally.

I hope someday they get it working over USB, I'd like to stop using ps/2.
Just to repeat what Phaedrus said, they claim they did internal testing and concluded that it's the driver.

Why stop using PS/2 though? It's still better in that it's faster, and that you don't have to take up a USB port for the keyboard. And it's also hot-swappable as long as there was a keyboard plugged into it when you first turned the PC on.
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Just to repeat what Phaedrus said, they claim they did internal testing and concluded that it's the driver.

Why stop using PS/2 though? It's still better in that it's faster, and that you don't have to take up a USB port for the keyboard. And it's also hot-swappable as long as there was a keyboard plugged into it when you first turned the PC on.
Laptops. No PS/2 means one (or two if you count the mouse) less port to add on a laptop, thus more room for ventilation or USB ports or card readers, etc. Especially important for netbooks.
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I haven't seen a laptop with ps/2 in ages. Also it's easier to extend USB cable then it is ps/2.
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Laptops. No PS/2 means one (or two if you count the mouse) less port to add on a laptop, thus more room for ventilation or USB ports or card readers, etc. Especially important for netbooks.
And when was the last time you've seen a laptop with a PS/2 port?

There's a difference between "I'd like USB to be improved so that I can get the same benefit as PS/2 on my laptop" and "I want to give up PS/2". The first one implies that you have no choice in the matter, while the second one means that PS/2 is still an option but you just don't want to use it.

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I haven't seen a laptop with ps/2 in ages. Also it's easier to extend USB cable then it is ps/2.
How so? I've extended PS/2 cables up to something like 3m and they still worked fine. If it's like, really long distance, you're better off using a KVM over IP (or something similar) with either option.
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I have a 4 foot PS/2 extension cable.
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I have 2 coffee mugs full of PS/2 adapters I have collected from '97 give or take lol

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I have 2 coffee mugs full of PS/2 adapters I have collected from '97 give or take lol

Christine
I could only find one... the one I was using with my FILCO last weekend when I was looking for a couple more.
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