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Anyone know where I can get my mitts on a Model M with a numpad that isn't eBay?
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post #3652 of 14551
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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post
You need to take it apart, because simply washing it will let water into the membranes, and that will cause endless trouble and may ruin the board.

You need to order a thin-walled 5.5mm nut driver from Clickykeyboards. Then run the casing through the dishwasher, soak the keycaps in soapy water or isopropyl alcohol, and carefully clean the controller and outside of the assembly with isopropyl alcohol. You do not want water getting inside the switches, because it will run down inside the assembly and cause short circuits in the membranes.
Thank you.

Will the keyboard feeling be better after washing?
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post #3653 of 14551
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
What membranes?
The Model M is buckling springs over membranes. The membranes are sandwiched between two steel plates which is what gives the keyboard its durability, but it's still membrane-based. Read my HP SK-2505 dissection, I make a few comments on the comparison between it and a Model M.

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Originally Posted by yann3804 View Post
Thank you.

Will the keyboard feeling be better after washing?
Hard to say. It will certainly feel better as in texture of the case and keycaps. But the springs are what give it its feel. Keep in mind that buckling springs wear out relatively fast compared to other mechanical switches (though the downright failure rate is lower than Alps switches). I can certainly feel the difference on mine, between the very heavily used alphanumerical section and the lighter used F and editing keys. The feel is still quite superb, but you can tell that it's lost some of its tactility.



Keep in mind folks that the Model M isn't necessarily the perfect keyboard. It's simply the "defining" mechanical keyboard and one of the best and oldest that is still compatible with modern computers without an adapter. The Model M is the end of a long series of cost reductions, from the beam spring switch keyboards used on 70's million dollar IBM mainframes, to the capacitive buckling springs of the Model F. The Model M set the standard for layout, and the build quality is superb, but it uses a relatively cheap membrane system, the switches are cheap and chaotic by nature, and the plastic rivets holding the plates together break over time causing the keyboard to lose its feel, and the plate/membrane system is non-serviceable unless you feel like doing a nuts and bolts mod. And starting the year after it was introduced the Model M was gradually cheapened, with slightly lighter plastics and the like.

It's *still* a superb keyboard. 1,000,000 awesome points minus 10,000 awesome points is still 990,000 awesome points. It's just not perfect, as some people get the impression it is.
post #3654 of 14551
On suggesting that EliteKeyboards should import Ducky keyboards, Majestouch (company that owns Filco) rep replied:

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Hi Phaedrus,

On paper the Ducky boards do have some attractive features, but EK probably isn't the best candidate for distributing these boards due to conflicts with existing products in our line-up.

LOL

They know the competition's got them beat, so they don't want EK importing them.
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LOL
They know the competition's got them beat, so they don't want EK importing them.
Oh wow, haha.
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that was a complete waste of energy.
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post #3657 of 14551
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On suggesting that EliteKeyboards should import Ducky keyboards, Majestouch (company that owns Filco) rep replied:




LOL

They know the competition's got them beat, so they don't want EK importing them.
EK is the sole distributor of Filco products in North America, right? Did you expect anything different?

That's like walking into a BMW Dealership and asking them to sell brand new Audis or Mercedes' ( Yes, I'm well aware they probably have used ones. That's why I said new ).

Good trolling though, 8/10.
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pretty much. imsto has expressed interested in the North American market.
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I keep reading EK and thinking EK Water Bocks.
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I keep reading EK and thinking EK Water Bocks.
Yeah, same here. Takes my mind a second to click.
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