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Yeah, I knew the refresh was the refresh rate. (regardless of distance) I didn't know that a higher refresh can actually shift some importance over to distance, however.
Well, for me it was kinda pointless to worry about the distance when 60Hz is already pretty harsh.
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how good is the Alps ASK6600 and is it work $60
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Originally Posted by Chaos Assasson View Post
how good is the Alps ASK6600 and is it work $60
I hope it is work for $60.
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post #3754 of 14551
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how good is the Alps ASK6600 and is it work $60
You can get it for $50 here
http://www.notestation.com/fullsizea...rdask-6600.htm

Don't know more about it though.
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post #3755 of 14551
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Originally Posted by Chaos Assasson View Post
how good is the Alps ASK6600 and is it work $60
It might be worth $60, but I don't know yet. However, here's a keyboard that has the Cherry MX Blues, claims to have full NKRO, USB ports, microphone and headphone jacks and it has a price of $70.74:

http://www.provantage.com/adesso-mkb-135b~7ADES09P.htm

I pulled this from here:

http://www.overclock.net/computer-pe...-keyboard.html
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post #3756 of 14551
Solidtek/DSI 6600 is similar to the ABS M1 it uses plate mounted Simplified Alps in Black (Fukkas), standard matrix and pad printed keycaps.

since it has a small backspace and a retail price of $59.99 the ABS M1 is probably a better choice.
Edited by lmnop - 5/13/10 at 11:10pm
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I found another keyboard that I could actually like:

http://www.cherry.de/english/product...a_Keyboard.htm

YouTube- Cherry Infinity Keyboard Overview

I cannot find any info on if it's dome or mechanical, and NOBODY on this side of the Atlantic sells it from what I can tell. Anyone know anything about it? Because if it's anything close to how good the G80s/G83s are, then I might actually want it with a US layout. The guy in the video says you can pick it up for £27.99, which gives some suspicion that it's not mechanical... but I wanted to know.
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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp View Post
I found another keyboard that I could actually like:

http://www.cherry.de/english/product...a_Keyboard.htm

YouTube- Cherry Infinity Keyboard Overview


I cannot find any info on if it's dome or mechanical, and NOBODY on this side of the Atlantic sells it from what I can tell. Anyone know anything about it? Because if it's anything close to how good the G80s/G83s are, then I might actually want it with a US layout. The guy in the video says you can pick it up for £27.99, which gives some suspicion that it's not mechanical... but I wanted to know.
When I see "Service life, standard key: > 10 million key operations ", it tells me that this might have Scissor Switches. Plus, he really likes the way the keys feel, so it has to be a decent Scissor board!
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post #3759 of 14551
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I spent $300 on two 24" 1920x1200 TN's last year. I picked them up for my Brother and I'm definitely have no regrets in it.

TN's are not bad for the average user. Or even for most PC Gamers. But if you have the money, you should always consider a superior quality product unless you absolutely need multiple monitors.
But you paid just $150 per LCD. That's still acceptable. But there are SO many people buying TN panels for like, $300-$500 each, and it's ridiculous. I don't care how fast their GTG response time is, it still looks like crap and ghosts and blurs with motion.

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Do you mean your eyes are always at least 2 feet away?

Anyway, the technical reason why LCDs don't cause eyestrain like CRTs do is because CRTs are very much like fluorescent bulbs in that they are constantly flickering. This is why using a higher Refresh Rate is easier on the eyes. But LCDs are very much like incandescent light bulbs in that they just glow. So, it's like the difference between staring at a bright fluorescent light from 2-3 feet away and staring at an incandescent.

But LCDs can still cause eyestrain due to the fact that the eyes are focused on the same object for an extended time. Of course, setting the LCD's brightness too high will also increase eyestrain - especially in the dark. I have tried using my computer in the dark, but it is much harder on my eyes, so I just leave the lights on. That's how I can last 12-18 hours on my computer every single day.
Incandescent light bulbs also flicker at 50Hz or 60Hz (whatever the frequency of the electricity is).

LCDs cause more eyestrain than CRTs for me because of the stupid blurring/ghosting. With most desktop use it's fine because the only thing really blurring is the mouse. But it's hard for me to play a game on one for too long.

There's also the phosphor decay to think about when talking about CRTs. That is, how long it takes them to release all their energy and turn off again after being hit by the gun. Many CRTs have been made - most of them TVs - where the phosphor decay matches up perfectly with the refresh rate, so that each phosphor only turns black the instant before it's hit again. This reduces eye strain a lot.

Another cause of CRT eye strain is improper convergence and focus. The blurry image you get when either of these are out of whack makes your brain keep trying to focus your eyes to make the image clearer. This effect gets more pronounced depending on how much of your visible area the screen is taking up (such as with a large screen, or if you're sitting really close to it). If the picture on your screen isn't perfectly sharp then you need to adjust these. If adjusting them still doesn't fix it, then it mostly likely means that you're running at a resolution greater than what the shadow mask or aperture grille can handle (resolution > number of subpixel triplets) - which is very common on CRTs.

Also, just running at a higher refresh rate isn't always a good idea. Each CRT has it's own optimal refresh rate at each resolution, which is based on the accuracy of it's electronics. Take the GDM-FW900 for example: at 1920x1200, it can go up to 98Hz. However, at 98Hz the picture isn't as good as when it's at 85Hz. So this is the refresh rate you should be running it at.
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hey Phaedrus2129 when are you going to get that Cherry G80-8200LPDUS and are you going to review it for us
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