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Your forte must not be English then. How do you pronounce forte? Fort (with an accent over the t) not for tay like so many have begun doing. /rant.

You can see by my response to his response that not having a proper term to distinguish leads to confusion. So we need a word for both types of ghosting. Or should we say the x4 cured the ghosting problem and removed the usb ghosting limit but added a completely different ghosting problem?
 
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Not a lot, but it's a start to a collection. eh?


Top to bottom:
Cherry G80-8200LPDUS
IBM Model M 1391401 1988
Compaq MX-11800
Cherry G84-4100PPAUS



Also, review of the G80-8200LPDUS:
http://www.overclock.net/computer-pe...us-review.html
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Your forte must not be English then. How do you pronounce forte? Fort (with an accent over the t) not for tay like so many have begun doing. /rant.

You can see by my response to his response that not having a proper term to distinguish leads to confusion. So we need a word for both types of ghosting. Or should we say the x4 cured the ghosting problem and removed the usb ghosting limit but added a completely different ghosting problem?
Good example there actually. I've literally never heard anyone actually pronounce it "Fort" before. It looks like the dictionarys are adding "for-tay" as an alternative pronunciation now too. Things like this have happened to several words; so many people pronounce them wrong that it becomes the correct way to pronounce it.

I think that will happen eventually with the term ghosting vs NKRO, so why fight it lol.
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Originally Posted by Crazy9000 View Post
http://www.overclock.net/9406347-post28.html

I think Paul brings up an excellent point in that post. For the most part, the popular industry has moved to using the term ghosting to mean that a key you are hitting is not being registered. It is my opinion that the popular companies are not going to back down from this, and that eventually the other companies will have to follow. Therefore, I think it may be a good idea for people to just accept that the terminology is changing, and that in the future nobody will say "n-key rollover".

At this point, I think the least confusing thing for people who are trying to buy keyboards would be if enthusiasts just gave in and started using the term ''anti-ghosting" themselves.

What do you guys think?
But calling a lack of Key Rollover to be "Ghosting" makes absolutely no sense. I mean, true Ghosting was called Ghosting because characters were appearing out of nowhere in exactly the same manner "real" ghosts are said to appear out of nowhere. I mean, here we have people saying, "Damn, I pressed 5 keys at the same time, but 2 of them didn't register. Hmm, maybe that's why it's called Ghosting because 2 characters disappeared on me and became Ghosts." Now that is laughable. I mean, it's almost logical, but still far from it when the definition of the word "ghost" is considered.

No, y'know what I think? I think that they are calling it "Anti-Ghosting" because it sounds cool. Think about it: how many gamers are going to see "N-Key Rollover" and be attracted to it when it sounds pale in comparison to "Anti-Ghosting!". I mean, one sounds boring and the other one is almost exciting and mysterious. But concerning Microsoft's Sidewinder X4, they need to explain that it has up to 26-Key Rollover without Ghosting. What do I mean? I mean they need to address both terms and explain what they are. They also need to explain what happens when more than 12 keys are pressed simultaneously in Windows when a keyboard is connected via USB.

But I admit that I am probably just wasting my time.
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It is also happening to can not, much to my consternation. I mean Can't is a contraction of 2 words by definition, why spell if cannot, but that is the dictionary now too. This is also why wiki adds disambiguation to make sure your defining the right thing. But then l33t is in the dictionary now to. The world is ending I tell ya.

But in technical terms such disambiguation must be implicit in the word. If we want to use the term ghosting as the general term what do we call the error of ghost key-presses that the x4 suffers from?
 
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^I personally find 'N-key rollover' to be a cooler term than 'Anti-ghosting.' Just sayin'.
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Good point about the terminology guys. Just think, if they go with ghosting as the new word, everyone will say "I see dead keystrokes!" The 6th sense: The Keyboard Kid. Sounds like a real summer blockbuster.

Anyhow, I am confused; if the Adesso-MKB is USB, why does the company claim it supports NKRO? There's no way that could happen. It must be false advertising, or they mean something else. I might go with the Adesso or the ABS-M1. Sure, the ABS, doesn't have NKRO, but it has black switches, which may be more conducive to gaming than the blue switch Adesso. After all, blues require you to lift your finger to double tap, and that will certainly slow you down.

I thought about going with the Scorpius M10, but after hearing about its soldering issues, I'll steer clear. I've really narrowed down my keyboard choice now:
1.) It will be a black, gray, or darker color keyboard (as beige and white tend to show dirt and grime more easily).
2.) It will have the standard keyboard layout (the compact size, shrunked backspace key, or jam-packed key design just do not appeal to me).
3.) It doesn't have to have NKRO, but that is a bonus. I don't really see what I would use it for unless I was typing at the speed of sound.

I need to decide if buckling springs is easier for gaming than blues, as I've heard disparate views on the subject. On the one hand, buckling springs are more tactile, so double tapping is easier. On the other hand, blues bounce back faster, so the response time is faster. It definitely is something to think about.
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Don't get blues or 2 cables will post about them again

NKRO on USB can be supported if you first us an adapter and plug it into PS2. (I think and on some boards)
 
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Is there any good way to letter those blank keycaps? We have a small laser at work that puts our part # and such on aluminum that would easily be able to mark something, but then the key would feel a little odd from having the letter part cut away I would think.
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