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£107 is a heck of lot of money for a keyboard ($155), and I'm not too keen on the extra features of the 7G either. Are there any cheaper ones?

Thanks for the help
Edited by pantalaimon - 5/20/10 at 4:13pm
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£107 is a heck of lot of money for a keyboard ($155), and I'm not too keen on the extra features of the 7G either. Aren't there any cheaper ones?

Thanks for the help
http://www.keyboardco.co.uk
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That's a lot of keyboards! Which ones are good for my purposes and don't cost a fortune?
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http://www.keyboardco.co.uk is popular retailer in the UK. they carry Filco and Cherry but the Cherry keyboards are the same price or more so this is a rare instance I will recommend Filco. if you want more information on Filco go to http://elitekeyboards.com

if you are looking for a switch suited for gaming Cherry MX Black Linear switches are a good choice. if you are unsure or looking for a switch suited for both typing and gaming Cherry MX Brown switches are a safe choice.
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You could get the Filco Zero NKRO. The switches aren't the best ("Fukka" black ALPS, rather than Cherry MX switches which are what most people consider best). But it's NKRO, which is good for gaming, and is better for typing than most rubber domes.

Ask people about their ABS M1s. The Filco Zero is like an ABS M1 with the numberpad removed, and all the issues with build quality eliminated, plus it has NKRO. A much better product than the ABS M1 all around, too bad they aren't available in the US anymore.

Its 47 quid w/ VAT. Best you're going to find for that money, I think.
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You could get the Filco Zero NKRO. The switches aren't the best ("Fukka" black ALPS, rather than Cherry MX switches which are what most people consider best). But it's NKRO, which is good for gaming, and is better for typing than most rubber domes.

Ask people about their ABS M1s. The Filco Zero is like an ABS M1 with the numberpad removed, and all the issues with build quality eliminated, plus it has NKRO. A much better product than the ABS M1 all around, too bad they aren't available in the US anymore.

Its 47 quid w/ VAT. Best you're going to find for that money, I think.
they are XM not Fukkas.
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post #3917 of 14564
Gaming with the ABS M1 was bad. Even if it had better rollover capabilities, just did not like the feel of the switches whatsoever.

This is the linear model off that site: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_d...sp?PRODUCT=647

Or you can wait for the 6Gv2.

http://www.steelseries.com/int/produ...v2/information
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they are XM not Fukkas.
How do XM compare to Fukkas?
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How do XM compare to Fukkas?
according to the Alps wiki at geekhack the XM are bulkier in design. they are supposed to be tactile and clicky with a white plunger. Fukkas are tactile and non-clicky with a black plunger. both the Filco and ABS M1 changed to Fukkas but the one sold on Keyboardco is the old model with XM.
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Nope, Fukka is the name of a company who bought Alps' Taiwanese switch factory. They churn out simplified Alps switches - both black (as used in the ABS) and white (later Filco Zeroes and some other keyboards) types. Unlike other 3rd party Alps switches, they are actually made to the same design as official Alps simplified switches so they're much better than the others.

XMs are just straight-out fake copies of the white Alps. They are considered to be absolutely dreadful, I've never heard anyone say anything remotely good about them. The only reason why you'd want one is to desolder the XMs and replace them with better Alps switches.

These were replaced with Fukka models, but they didn't sell well so neither elitekeyboads or keyboardco have them, despite the fact that they were pretty nifty keyboards for the price ($80)
Edited by ch_123 - 5/20/10 at 5:10pm
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