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Lightness has been a major complaint of Cherry-made KBs because Cherry has its own unique way to mount the switches directly to the PCB. Other OEM companies include Costar (maker of Filco and Das) have a metal plate mounted between the switches and the PCB, which added some weight and sturdiness to the KB. I'm not sure why OEM companies chose to mount it that way because the switches they ordered from Cherry weren't the same as ones Cherry uses for making its own KBs. A patent issue perhaps.

As for the keycaps, the Steelseries ones are made of ABS which are inferior to the POM or PBT ones made by Cherry. However, better keycap quality doesn't necessarily reflect on its feel of touch. It's again up to the personal preference.
Other companies can order the PCB-mounted switches that have the two extra stabilizing posts. You can even get them yourself at digikey. And in reality, it's very possible to get a better typing experience without a plate than with a crappily contructed one.
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Originally Posted by Alpstouch View Post
Lightness has been a major complaint of Cherry-made KBs because Cherry has its own unique way to mount the switches directly to the PCB. Other OEM companies include Costar (maker of Filco and Das) have a metal plate mounted between the switches and the PCB, which added some weight and sturdiness to the KB. I'm not sure why OEM companies chose to mount it that way because the switches they ordered from Cherry weren't the same as ones Cherry uses for making its own KBs. A patent issue perhaps.

As for the keycaps, the Steelseries ones are made of ABS which are inferior to the POM or PBT ones made by Cherry. However, better keycap quality doesn't necessarily reflect on its feel of touch. It's again up to the personal preference.
Cherry MX Red Linear in the Cherry G80-3494 are plate mounted. it weighs 3lbs which is more than the Filco.
Edited by lmnop - 5/24/10 at 9:04am
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I just realized how useless illuminated keys have been for me since I touch type. This also makes me wonder, do the majority of gamers want a feature they have no use for or can they just not type properly?
Pretty much the only reason I like the illumination on my Razer (calm down, replacing it soon, no idea with what) is for these symbols #$%^&* I can never remember the order so I have to look down, and the illumination is nice at that point, although usually now that I think of it my 3 monitors provide enough light to see by.
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Pretty much the only reason I like the illumination on my Razer (calm down, replacing it soon, no idea with what) is for these symbols #$%^&* I can never remember the order so I have to look down, and the illumination is nice at that point, although usually now that I think of it my 3 monitors provide enough light to see by.
Razer and a few other folks offer a Keyboard lamp as well.
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Also, I was wondering if anyone could help me find a Mech board with the US International layout?

Switch type not so important, as long as it's mechanical and not cheap (quality wise.)
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post #4046 of 14567
The closest thing I can think of is the Matias Tactile Pro, which is a Mac keyboard that has the characters for the Mac equivalent of US International printed on the keys. For PC keyboards, I can say with 99% certainty that there's no commercially made mechanical PC keyboard with a full US Int layout printed on it's keycaps.

Unicomp, maker of the modern IBM Model Ms do a custom key printing service and could theoretically make a full set for you, but their custom printing service is quite expensive and would probably be prohibitively expensive to deck out a large part of the keyboard with custom keycaps.

Do what I do - get a standard US keyboard and learn off where the symbols go, or print out that picture till you get used to it.
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post #4047 of 14567
If a board doesn't have AltGr you can't use US Int layout.

Instead you have to use Alt + Numpad

IE: ALT + 123 = {
or ALT + 456 = ╚
ALT + 896 = Ç
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
If a board doesn't have AltGr you can't use US Int layout.

Instead you have to use Alt + Numpad

IE: ALT + 123 = {
or ALT + 456 = ╚
ALT + 896 = Ç
I'm pretty sure you can change the layout of the board in windows, and it'll just use the normal alt and the letter or something like that.
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BTW, looking at that mac keyboard, I wonder if their description meets TwoCables' approval? http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro3/

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No ghost in this machine.
Most keyboards allow only a certain number of keys to be pressed at once, and often cannot keep up with very fast typists. The result is called ghosting — letters missing from what you actually typed, or additional letters that you didn't type.

The Tactile Pro has special Anti-Ghosting Circuitry (also called n-key rollover) to eliminate these problems. You can type as fast as you're able; the Tactile Pro will keep up.
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I'm pretty sure you can change the layout of the board in windows, and it'll just use the normal alt and the letter or something like that.
I was under the impression that it wouldn't work like that and AltGr was setup differently.

Though if I'm wrong, I'd just be looking for custom keycaps then.
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