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So does a nice keyboard like these make that huge of a difference? I have the Logitech G11... I didn't know any better, and I liked the Ligh6t up keys for the look and night gaming.

What are some good sub $45 dollar choices like that ABS M1 or whatever. and what all are the benefits of these?
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No offense Xguntherc...but this thread would be a 1/4 of the size it is not if people would read a few posts. That question has been answered over and over.
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So does a nice keyboard like these make that huge of a difference? I have the Logitech G11... I didn't know any better, and I liked the Ligh6t up keys for the look and night gaming.

What are some good sub $45 dollar choices like that ABS M1 or whatever. and what all are the benefits of these?
The difference is the tactility of the keystroke, and the bounce-back of the key.
Rubber dome keyboards, like any Microsoft, Logitech, Razor, etc... require you to push the key down the entire way to register a keystroke, do not have a distinct tactile feel, and don't bounce back as quickly as mechanical switches.

These other keyboards also tend to have a much higher build quality than the average keyboard.

There are so many different keyswitches and mechanisms its hard to know where to start describing them.
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I have a Dell AT101W it is pretty good. The ABS's are blue switches right?
Nope, they are Black Alps Copies.

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Originally Posted by xguntherc View Post
So does a nice keyboard like these make that huge of a difference? I have the Logitech G11... I didn't know any better, and I liked the Ligh6t up keys for the look and night gaming.

What are some good sub $45 dollar choices like that ABS M1 or whatever. and what all are the benefits of these?
It all depends on preference. But if you care to hear mine, it's that Logitech's keys make it feel like you're sticking your fingers into a tray of jello and almost any board is better, including other rubber domes.

The biggest benefit of mechanical keyboards is the way they feel. The best way to describe them would probably be...well..you know how scissor switches (laptop keyboards) make normal rubber domes feel mushy? Mechanical switches do the same thing to laptop keyboards. Which by proxy makes regular keyboards feel even worse.

And better yet, they last for decades. Unlike regular boards, the key feel won't start getting uneven with certain keys, and you won't ever have to press a key really hard for it to register. And if for some odd reason one of the keys dies on you, it can be fixed extremely easily, since all you have to do is replace a single switch (with a regular board you'd have to throw it out and get a new one). So at the end of the day the price is pretty justified.

The only new full size mechanical keyboard under $50 is the ABS. But there's also the Scorpius M10 for $50-$60, and IMO it's a better pick than the ABS. But if you don't mind going used, you can pick up a keyboard with practically any type of switch you want for $20 or less.
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But if you don't mind going used, you can pick up a keyboard with practically any type of switch you want for $20 or less.
The ebay auction I mentioned earlier claims to have Dell AT101Ws in new condition, for $20 or best offer...although I do not know how good the black ALPS switches are for typing with.
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The ebay auction I mentioned earlier claims to have Dell AT101Ws in new condition, for $20 or best offer...although I do not know how good the black ALPS switches are for typing with.
They feel almost like cherry browns but you can barely feel the tactile bump.
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By the way, thanks for this guide. I bought the ABS M1, and now everytime I type on rubber domes, I type MUCH slower. I only like mine. Lol, my typing has improved much.

Rubber domes feel like I am typing in syrup.
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By the way, thanks for this guide. I bought the ABS M1, and now everytime I type on rubber domes, I type MUCH slower. I only like mine. Lol, my typing has improved much.

Rubber domes feel like I am typing in syrup.
That is the one problem when you get a decent keyboard...You know what you miss in ordinary keyboards...

I guess it really is one of those cases where ignorance is bliss...
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That is the one problem when you get a decent keyboard...You know what you miss in ordinary keyboards...

I guess it really is one of those cases where ignorance is bliss...
yeah. i agree. i have this old old keyboard i use. i have to use an adapter to convert to PS/2

however its starting to show its age.. the I key and the shift key act up every once in a while.. other than that its a dream. (minus the nightmare when i touch another keyboard and want to pull out my hair!!! (note the shift key acted up on those !))

i am hoping sometime soon to pick up a new one with USB.. the ABS looks like a nice option. but from a post in this thread the tactile is not that great.. and considering how old my keyboard is im afraid it might be a downgrade..

Model: KB-5981
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Serial number: (not saying. but it does have its own unique serial number! )
    
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yeah. i agree. i have this old old keyboard i use. i have to use an adapter to convert to PS/2

however its starting to show its age.. the I key and the shift key act up every once in a while.. other than that its a dream. (minus the nightmare when i touch another keyboard and want to pull out my hair!!! (note the shift key acted up on those !))

i am hoping sometime soon to pick up a new one with USB.. the ABS looks like a nice option. but from a post in this thread the tactile is not that great.. and considering how old my keyboard is im afraid it might be a downgrade..

Model: KB-5981
Brand (i think?) Chicony
Serial number: (not saying. but it does have its own unique serial number! )
Just out of curiosity, what kind of switches does that have? Can you get a picture by removing a keycap?
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