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Not bottoming out keys is a habit that's tough to get rid of.
the muscle memory will develop over time the difficulty is the type of switch.
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Not bottoming out keys is a habit that's tough to get rid of.
I was able to get rid of it, but I was extremely determined. I would literally use Notepad to practice every single day, but I never did it for a specific amount of time; I would just type in Notepad until I decided to do something else. The whole experience was very organic and almost spontaneous at times.

But you see, my original reason for typing in Notepad every single day was originally just to be able to type more. After all, I really enjoy typing on my keyboard, so I needed to satisfy my craving as much as possible. But as a result, I soon began using Notepad as a practice tool so that I could change my typing style so that I would begin to automatically use less force when I type and press keys. However, I was still using it as a way to satisfy my craving and so therefore that craving and determination to stop bottoming out kept me going.

As a result of that, I discovered that it was easiest to avoid bottoming out by hovering my wrists while I type (it was actually an accidental discovery) combined with gentle keypresses. In fact, I discovered that it was very helpful to purposely type so gently that I would often not even actuate some of the keystrokes. This showed me exactly how much force I need to apply in order to at least actuate each keystroke. But this is more of a subconscious, muscle-memory related thing rather than being consciously aware of it. But it has to be in order for me to be able to focus on what I'm typing instead of on my technique.

To simplify it, I would say that the best thing to do is to hover your wrists while typing and just press each key too gently so that several of your keystrokes don't even register. As a result, you'll be slightly less gentle and then you'll find that middle ground where you're pressing each key with only the necessary force needed to actuate it thereby not bottoming out any of the keys (except for maybe the Spacebar).
Edited by TwoCables - 6/13/10 at 12:46pm
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I stopped trying to not bottom out after I noticed my WPM drop.
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Lol that's insane because I'm practicing not bottoming out keys right now myself. The good thing is that I'm almost there. There are only a few keys which I press too hard mainly being the space bar and the backspace key. Maybe even sometimes shift too. However everything else is going alright . I also do the notepad thing to. Or sometimes I play Typer Shark.
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I stopped trying to not bottom out after I noticed my WPM drop.
So were you expecting your speed to stay the same or improve? I mean, how can it not change? You're learning something new! My WPM went down to about one-quarter of what it normally is (at least that's what it seemed like). But the end result is that now I am no longer bottoming out and I type even a little bit faster than I used to. Not only that, but another benefit is that typing is much easier (which is why I'm faster).

Don't be a quitter.

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Lol that's insane because I'm practicing not bottoming out keys right now myself. The good thing is that I'm almost there. There are only a few keys which I press too hard mainly being the space bar and the backspace key. Maybe even sometimes shift too. However everything else is going alright . I also do the notepad thing to. Or sometimes I play Typer Shark.
I have to admit here that I still bottom out the Spacebar/Backspace and Shifts, but I most certainly don't press them as hard as I did when I first started typing on this keyboard!
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post #4506 of 14551
I found not bottoming out to be the easiest on Blue Cherry switches, it came sort of naturally after some use. I am pretty good at not bottoming out on buckling springs, especially on the the Model F whose different force curve helps a lot.

On the flipside, Alps are next to impossible to not bottom out on because they give way so suddenly after actuation (and bottom out nastily, which is why a lot of people don't like them). Topres also give way easily because they are so low-force, but they bottom out really softly so it doesn't matter.

Beam Spring switches also bottom out easily because the actuation point is very close to the bottom of the travel, but they also have a soft landing. They are the wünderswitchen, after all.
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Hey guys can anyone help me identify my keyboard? It's an ancient keyboard. Accumulated tons of dust. and got the big round AT connector. Can anyone help me? BTW is there a way to use this for a PS2/USB port?

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Hey guys can anyone help me identify my keyboard? It's an ancient keyboard. Accumulated tons of dust. and got the big round AT connector. Can anyone help me? BTW is there a way to use this for a PS2/USB port?

need a better picture. the whole keyboard and take a keycap off.
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How to take the keycaps off? I am afraid that I might cripple my keyboard.
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How to take the keycaps off? I am afraid that I might cripple my keyboard.
it won't break. see here. use a flathead screwdriver, butter knife.
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