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Ok, first off, I'm not just trolling, I've got an honest question. Having tried many different mechanical keyboards, each borrowed from friends for several days of normal use, I've decided that I don't like any mechanical keyboard, with any type of switch, enough to justify spending an obscene amount of money on. Mechanical keyboards offer no features over my G15v2, and what (minimal) features they have cannot make up for the disparity in price. My G15 has many features that I use every day, and it was only $60 after rebate. Compare that to these mechanical keyboards that have no media buttons, no macro buttons, no backlighting (ok, some of the $100+ keyboards have them...), sometimes no numpad... I find typing on my G15 extremely comfy, and while typing on some mechanical keyboards is kind of comfy, what am I supposed to find to justify the price? The quality? Please, my cheapo rubber dome keyboards have lasted for years with no degradation. My G15 has lasted through plenty of abuse. The features? What features, clickyness? If mechanical keyboards had the same features as my G15, at a sub $100 price point, I'd consider it, but... Why should I bother with a more expensive, less useful keyboard? Sorry if this is a bit harsh, but I don't see anything to justify the obscene price tag on these things.
If you use all the special features and macros and all that then your g15 is a great choice, but a mechanical keyboard will outlive that keyboard by a long shot and is a muc higher quality product, so you might spend $120 now, but its going to last at least twice as long as the g15.

"The poor man always pays twice."
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Also self-quoting for an answer :
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http://www.overclock.net/computer-pe...ck-boards.html

I'm gonna have to ask what the OP is asking in this thread... because the 7G is cheaper in some places and has the same switches but a USB hub + audio pass-through and a BIG wrist rest. Which one would really be better? I ask because I underestimated the noise profile on MX Blacks and now have a desire for them.
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Which ones have you used? There are crappy mechanical keyboards out there. If you've used a G81, then that would explain it.
I've used the ABS M1, the Das Keyboard professional, the IBM Model M, and a couple others that I don't remember. Even with the high end ones, what am I supposed to find feature-wise to replace my G15 features. I use macro buttons, the LCD, and the backlighting constantly, I can't get a mechanical keyboard that does all that.
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Also self-quoting for an answer :
Do you really want the features?

Audio-pass through will automatically downgrade your experience. SO that's nill for me.

I've got 2 USB 2.0 ports on the front of my case. I've nto really needed more as the rest of my USB devices are plugged into the back.

Wristrest is not my style; I like the soft gell ones

I hate the key-repositioning (aka they moved the \\| key & made the enter key bigger.)

I'd re-choose the Filco most of the time; though I'd probably get a Das for the price. If you want the USB hub.

Personally; I am deciding on a Deck Legend as I want the back-lighting. But looking back; even though the Filco's have a high price. I don't regret purchasing one. They are very nice boards. Even though others have more features.
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Do you really want the features?

Audio-pass through will automatically downgrade your experience. SO that's nill for me.

I've got 2 USB 2.0 ports on the front of my case. I've nto really needed more as the rest of my USB devices are plugged into the back.
The features are more of a bonus than anything, I likely won't use them but it would be nice.

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Wristrest is not my style; I like the soft gell ones

I hate the key-repositioning (aka they moved the \\| key & made the enter key bigger.)
I don't like gel wrist rests, honestly, hard ones are so much better; and I don't mind the key repositioning since I've got long fingers and have used keyboards with such a layout in the past so I'm still used to that layout.

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Personally; I am deciding on a Deck Legend as I want the back-lighting. But looking back; even though the Filco's have a high price. I don't regret purchasing one. They are very nice boards. Even though others have more features.
Yeah, that's why I'm avoiding Decks until I get decent income, the price. Otherwise I'd get a Legend 105 Frost in a heartbeat.
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I sold most of my boards for at cost; actually made a profit on my cherry because of ebay and snaggin it for a low price.

Pretty much the only reason I'm picking up a Deck. Though, I'm going for the MX-Clear model (Frost.)

Which every you pick, I'm sure you'll be pleasently surprised. I just wish they had cheaper boards out using switches like Fake White or Black alps without NKRO just for people to try.
If we had a larger selection of mechanical keyboards out like that; it'd be easier to suggest them to some people. Because one store would be bound to have them on the floor as a demo unit.

Also; typing on my old Gateway board (ruber dome + slider) is really annoying.
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I have asked tons of people and half of them say SSD, other half say keyboard. I think it would just really make a difference if I had the chance to try a mechanical keyboard before I make my decision.
Back when I was shopping for a new mechanical keyboard, I was in the same boat: I wanted to be able to try all of the switch types before buying any keyboard. Manyak even made a thread asking if there would be any interest in some kind of trial board (like the size of a keypad) where it would have several different switches complete with keys so that you could purchase it for perhaps $15 or $20 or something and then spend time comparing all of the switches. I mean, when I saw that, I thought that I knew my prayers had been answered and all I was going to have to do at that point was wait.

But then I started watching dozens of YouTube videos of people demonstrating their mechanical keyboards; they were either just typing, demonstrating, or reviewing their keyboard. I also kept reading everything I could about the different switch types. I was basically doing everything I could to see which switch type I was gravitating towards.

After watching several YouTube videos and after reading all of the information that I had read (and after asking a few questions in this Guide), I began to notice that I was falling in love with the Cherry MX Blues. Once I noticed that, I began to focus a bit more on the Cherry MX Blues just to make sure it really was the switch I wanted.

And then I finally purchased the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO, and I am 110% satisfied! So, I highly recommend doing the same thing: watch a bunch of YouTube videos and study them; watch them closely and listen carefully. Pay attention to which switch type you believe you would like the most, and then find a good keyboard with that switch type. I think I can personally promise you that if you do this, then you will find yourself with a keyboard that you really love and then you'll be able to say the following right along with me: with all of these resources, there's really no need to try before you buy.

So don't give up!
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Pretty much the only reason I'm picking up a Deck. Though, I'm going for the MX-Clear model (Frost.)
The Fire and ToXic are MX Black only, and the Ice can have either Clear or Black; the Frost is Clear only. Personally I could go either way with those switches but I like neutral lighting best so the Frost is my game.
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I never got Backlighting... I can understand that maybe for typing keyboards for people who can't type, but gaming involves far less muscle memory than typing does because it uses the same keys which are clustered to the left of the keyboard (in most cases anyway)

Unless you like the whole "OMG BLUE LIGHTS EVERYWHERE" look, but personally that doesn't do much for me.
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Ok, first off, I'm not just trolling, I've got an honest question. Having tried many different mechanical keyboards, each borrowed from friends for several days of normal use, I've decided that I don't like any mechanical keyboard, with any type of switch, enough to justify spending an obscene amount of money on. Mechanical keyboards offer no features over my G15v2, and what (minimal) features they have cannot make up for the disparity in price. My G15 has many features that I use every day, and it was only $60 after rebate. Compare that to these mechanical keyboards that have no media buttons, no macro buttons, no backlighting (ok, some of the $100+ keyboards have them...), sometimes no numpad... I find typing on my G15 extremely comfy, and while typing on some mechanical keyboards is kind of comfy, what am I supposed to find to justify the price? The quality? Please, my cheapo rubber dome keyboards have lasted for years with no degradation. My G15 has lasted through plenty of abuse. The features? What features, clickyness? If mechanical keyboards had the same features as my G15, at a sub $100 price point, I'd consider it, but... Why should I bother with a more expensive, less useful keyboard? Sorry if this is a bit harsh, but I don't see anything to justify the obscene price tag on these things.
when rubber domes start to age they become softer, slower and less tactile. anybody typing on a rubber dome keyboard can put this to the test by pressing a key they use everyday and pressing a key they rarely if ever use at the same time. rubber dome keyboards are constructed with poor plastics, electronics and printing.



the Gigabyte GK-K8000 was the first mechanical keyboard made by a large company in a long time and it had alot of features.
  • Cherry MX Black Linear switches
  • Dedicated Macro Keys
  • Dedicated Multimedia Keys
  • Dedicated Windows Key Lock (Disable the L-Windows Key)
  • Integrated C-Media 6300 soundcard
  • 4MB on-board memory
  • Upgradeable Firmware
  • Carrying Case
  • USB Hub
  • Multimedia Ports
  • Extra Keycaps
  • Keycap Puller
  • Attachable Wrist Rest
  • Detachable Braided USB Cable

it was only $119 USD.

mechanical keyboards are getting more and more popular so there is a good chance there will be another mechanical keyboard in the future that is rich with features so don't give up.

people on this forum have admitted they only like the Logitech G15 Rev 2 because the LCD allows them to monitor Temps but there are Fan Controllers for that.
Edited by lmnop - 6/28/10 at 4:24am
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