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$99 and is supposed to be launched in North America shortly after the release of the iOne Xarmor U9BL.
Interesting. May take the spot of the Das on my list...
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Why do you need backlighting?
I don't need it. It's helpful, but I have yet to see a mechanical keyboard at the sub $90 range that I like well enough to ditch my G15 for.
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Why do you need backlighting?
this, although I may have an equation that most gamers follow...

leds^2=1337
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Interesting. May take the spot of the Das on my list...
wait. the e-mail said the iOne Xarmor U9 will be $99.95 but it didn't specify if it was the wired or wireless model. if you go to the iOne site the iOne Xarmor U9 is wired but in the pictures above it's wireless so I don't know.
Edited by lmnop - 6/30/10 at 10:18am
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wait. the e-mail said the iOne Xarmor U9 will be $99.95 but it didn't specify if it was the wired or wireless model. if you go to the iOne site the iOne Xarmor U9 is wired but in the pictures above it's wireless so I don't know.
It seems very odd that the wireless would be that cheap, I was expecting much more. But who knows.

Also, on the discussion of backlighting, I used to like it when I lived in a dorm room with another guy late at night when I tried to keep the light I was using to a minimum. Since then, maybe once or twice has it came in handy.
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I don't need it. It's helpful, but I have yet to see a mechanical keyboard at the sub $90 range that I like well enough to ditch my G15 for.
I understand the reason you came onto the thread. You probably feel all the rubber dome, logitech, and razer bashing is unfair/unwarranted. The feel of your G15 is not that much different than mech KBs in your opinion and that your KB comes with a lot of features you find practical/useful. So here's a few points I wanted to make to some of your posts:

1. What's the point of coming onto the thread in the first place? There is plenty of G15 love that goes on in the peripherals section anyways. I mean, this is a thread dedicated to mech KBs. does it somehow surprise you that it's filled with people who are passionate and devoted to them. I'm also sure that 99% of the people who are current owners used to own a rubber dome previously. I've personally used both the G15 and Razer ( my Lycosa sits in my closet on the bottom of a pile of clothes ), the majority of the comments on the "feel" and dislike for it comes from first hand use, not just unjustified bashing.

2. You continually bash the price point of mech KBs. Calling the price "obscene" and not warranted for the lack of features. The main reason for getting a keyboard is to use as an input device correct? Isn't the feel of the key switches the most important point than? I always hear people constantly pointing out the lack of features, but isn't the most important feature the feel of the keys + roll over capabilities? ( What actually impacts the input of the input device ). TwoCables has pointed out the price of the switches already, if you do the math, they alone can come out on average to be 50-60 dollars for the COST of the switches. So other than the features that you find attractive ( extra macro keys, LEDs, LCD ), most of the 10 dollar rubber domes have the same exact feel as the higher end logitech ones, that is what I feel is a rip off.

3. As far as justifying the purchase of Mech KBs. I assure you, most of the mech KB users here have multiple mech KBs. Why would we justify an expensive product by purchasing another one? I peronsally have 3 Mech KBs over $100 ( Filco 104 w/ NKRO, Steelseries 7G, and Cherry w/MX Reds ). I also find it hilarious you call out TwoCables. He is one of the most devoted Mech KB. owners on here, TwoCables has often stated that the most favorite part of his system is his mech KB. He types these long drawn out posts on all the virtues of his Filco down to the last detail. The guy loves his keyboard and this is not some front to justify spending over $100. This type of attitude is felt by most mech KB owners also, although it maybe a bit zealous sometimes, it is almost always genuine and not a way to "justify" spending an "obscene" amount.

I personally will use mechanical KBs only from this point on. From a price standapoint, the costs are justified by use of higher quality key switches and plastics. I don't mind if someone prefers rubber domes, but I couldn't justify the price point for some of them such as the G19.

tl;dr version:
Most of current mech KB users have extensive experience with rubber domes such as logitech and razer products. Mech KBs might seem expensive, but they justify the price with high quality build/parts. In relation, I can't justify the standard 10 dollar rubber dome and something like the G15, that is just my opinion though. Mech KB users aren't trying to justify their purchase by bashing, they just genuinely like their product that much. It's the norm that mech KB users purchase multiple mech KBs, this doesn't feel like denial, but more of genuine enthusiasm.
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oh wow the XArmor is something i will look into. I love blue cherry switches and my filco.
 
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I don't like them.

the font on the iOne Scorpius M10BL is actually worst than the Deck. I don't know why they chose Cherry MX Blue switches over Black but Otterclock should be happy since his dying wish is a Deck Legend with Cherry MX Blue switches. orange W, S, A, D? why not Red or Blue? why not arrows? they won't illuminate.

a couple days ago a iOne service rep said the iOne Xarmor U9BL will be available in North America in Mid July and retail for $149.95 USD.
I agree with everything you said. Poor thinking went into this product, its a super gamer keyboard with cherry blues? It has ugly orange keys that don't have markings so it won't light up? I wan't to meet the genius designer behind this
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I'm not afraid of leaving my G15 behind. I like the typing on mechanical keyboards that I could justify dumping Logitech, but again: the only thing I don't like about mechanical keyboards is the price. At the $100+ price point, I would expect to see some keyboards with fancy lights, holographic projectors, pizza dispensers, etc. What do you get for $100? A keyboard. Period. That's what I don't want. I don't want to spend more money for fewer features. End of story. If they were only $10 more, I'd drop the G15 in a second, but $60 more? No thanks. I can't stress this enough. My main objection is the price.
You just aren't comprehending the quality of the product, quality = costs more.
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You just aren't comprehending the quality of the product, quality = costs more.
He understands why it costs more, he's just saying it's more then he's willing to pay.

I would just say they are a better value, since the mechanical keyboards tend to have a smaller profit margin then the big gaming keyboards.
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