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I'm not going to solder. I'm far too clumsy to even trust myself to bring it near a computer component. Besides, for a $135 keyboard (oh wait, $145 because I had to pay to RMA my first one! Thanks, Metadot.) I shouldn't have to do this.
But being expensive doesn't guarantee that every single keyboard that gets sold is going to be 100% perfect. Even if you buy a product from a manufacturer who has top-notch quality control, there's still no guarantee that the unit purchased is going to be perfect. After all, why else would there be RMAs and EMAs, right?

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As long as I'm ranting, I should add that there's other inconsistencies like this one on other keys, just not to the point where I thought it was worth complaining. (considering these Cherry switches are probably manufactured in Korean sweatshops for 15 cents a pop, I expected some degree of variation) However, the W key was so different that it's actually bothersome to use.

TwoCables, it's not the distance that is different; but the force to reach the tactile bump. (but not to actuate it) I don't know if you understand what I'm saying; it feels like the switch has been weakened, like it does with rubber domes.
Oh, that's due to the spring inside the switch. From what I've seen in this thread, the spring is easy to replace by the end-user.

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I'm also having more squeaking problems with the stabilizers in my Enter and Backspace keys. The only way to keep them from squeaking, is to push towards myself while depressing the key. (so I'm positive it's the stabilizers this time, whereas last time it seemed to happen no matter what; making me think the switch is bad) I was going to lube them up myself with a keycap puller I made, but combined with the fact that my W key is like this I don't want to bother. I think I'm going to go back to Metadot's support, and ask for ANOTHER REPLACEMENT under warranty. If they make me pay for shipping I swear to God somebody working for Metadot is going to get a lengthy and angrily written letter from me.

For how much trouble/money this is turning out to cost me, I should've just gotten a Deck. I am severely disappointed right now. Combine this with the fact that my DAC's drivers have been conflicting with Windows' audiodg.exe, and the fact that my motherboard has been dropping connection with my Ethernet cable for no reason; I'm not a very happy camper.

The only thing to do now is order a second 5770 and sink into gaming ignorance...
Based on past discussions in this thread regarding both the Das and Majestouch boards, it doesn't surprise me that the stabilizers are squeaky.
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But being expensive doesn't guarantee that every single keyboard that gets sold is going to be 100% perfect. Even if you buy a product from a manufacturer who has top-notch quality control, there's still no guarantee that the unit purchased is going to be perfect. After all, why else would there be RMAs and EMAs, right?
I realize that. However, it doesn't make it less frustrating. As far as the current situation is, I'd be surprised to find out that Metadot or Majestouch even have quality control.


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Oh, that's due to the spring inside the switch.
That's what I figured.


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Based on past discussions in this thread regarding both the Das and Majestouch boards, it doesn't surprise me that the stabilizers are squeaky.
Doesn't surprise me either, that's why I hadn't complained up until now.
Edited by Maytan - 7/18/10 at 6:45pm
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I realize that. However, it doesn't make it less frustrating. As far as the current situation is, I'd be surprised to find out that Metadot or Majestouch even have quality control.
I know how this will sound, but even Corsair sometimes produces bad PSUs.

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That's what I figured.
I know that that several of the regulars in this forum will be very happy to show you exactly how to swap the springs in the switches. You can swap the W's spring for the spring of a key you either never use, or use so rarely that it just doesn't matter. From what I've seen in past discussions, it sounds like it's very easy as long as you are told how to do it.

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Doesn't surprise me either, that's why I hadn't complained up until now.
I recommend asking these members what the best lubricant and application method is. I think the end result is that the keyboard will be in top shape.
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Haha, I seem to refresh just when you post.

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I know how this will sound, but even Corsair sometimes produces bad PSUs.
Like I said, I'm aware of this. But my luck is at quite a low point right now...


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I know that that several of the regulars in this forum will be very happy to show you exactly how to swap the springs in the switches. You can swap the W's spring for the spring of a key you either never use, or use so rarely that it just doesn't matter. From what I've seen in past discussions, it sounds like it's very easy as long as you are told how to do it.
If it's fool proof, I'd be more than happy to try it. (I just don't have much confidence when it comes to 'modifications', if you could call this that)


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I recommend asking these members what the best lubricant and application method is. I think the end result is that the keyboard will be in top shape.
Miss lmnop has given me quite a few articles already. I planned to use Silicone Grease.
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Haha, I seem to refresh just when you post.



Like I said, I'm aware of this. But my luck is at quite a low point right now...




If it's fool proof, I'd be more than happy to try it. (I just don't have much confidence when it comes to 'modifications', if you could call this that)




Miss lmnop has given me quite a few articles already. I planned to use Silicone Grease.
I once said that I've never used a soldering iron in my entire life nor have I worked on electronics or anything like this, but everyone here assured me that if I wanted to perform such a task like replacing a switch or a spring, then I would find that it's much easier than it seems due to my lack of experience.
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I'm sure it IS easier than I think, but I have absolutely no experience with soldering what so ever. I don't plan to experiment on my keyboard...
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I'm sure it IS easier than I think, but I have absolutely no experience with soldering what so ever. I don't plan to experiment on my keyboard...
I think that replacing the spring doesn't require the use of a soldering iron. But like I said, I have absolutely no experience with soldering either. The closest I've ever come is I think I was watching my dad melt some of the solder back when I was maybe 6 or 7 years old. All I remember is the coil of solder; I don't remember what he was soldering whatsoever.

Back before I ordered my Majestouch (my first and only mechanical keyboard), I was expressing how I was absolutely on the fence about the switch type. Then somebody came along (probably Manyak or lmnop) and told me that if I ended up not liking the switch type in the keyboard I purchased, then I could just buy a keyboard through eBay that has different switches and swap them out. When I asked how easy it was or how to do it, they told me that all I had to do was de-solder the switches swap them, and solder them in.

I figured that they were assuming that I have used a soldering iron before so I told them that I have never even held one let alone used one! So they told me that it doesn't matter; if I'm good at following instructions, then I will easily be able to complete the job as though I've done it many times before!

But since all you'd have to do is swap out the spring, you don't have to worry about that. At least, this is what I am currently assuming. I expect to be wrong due to my lack of knowledge as it pertains to mechanical keyboards. But still, are you good at following instructions? I mean, if so, then they will likely assure you the same thing.
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I'm fairly good at following instructions, and I'm at least willing to give this spring switch a shot.

My skepticism about soldering still stands. It's always easy for someone who HAS experience to tell someone else that said thing they're experienced in is easy.
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I'm fairly good at following instructions, and I'm at least willing to give this spring switch a shot.

My skepticism about soldering still stands. It's always easy for someone who HAS experience to tell someone else that said thing they're experienced in is easy.
But those who have done it before still had a first time.
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I'm fairly good at following instructions, and I'm at least willing to give this spring switch a shot.

My skepticism about soldering still stands. It's always easy for someone who HAS experience to tell someone else that said thing they're experienced in is easy.
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Intel Core i7 920 eVGA X58 SLI LE Modified XFX GTX 285 and XFX 9800GT 6GB Corsair Dominator GT 
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Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB LG GH24NS50 Windows 7 Ultimate Dell Ultrascan P992 19" CRT 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Das Ultimate Corsair 1000HX Cooler Master HAF932 steelseries xai 
Mouse Pad
12x12 granite tile with rubber liner 
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