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Haha, I might. But first, can you post a comment of your experiences with gaming/typing on brown switches. I am more concerned with how well they type because I'm pretty sure they're good enough for gaming. I am relieved that they're still tactile, so I'll be able to know which keys I hit.
Then watch more videos.

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Originally Posted by fssbzz View Post
i still on ABS M1 right now. i want lighter one. so i assume 45G will be nice for me?
so what does 40G~60G mean in the OP guide?
"40-80g overall" means that throughout the entire key travel from the top to bottom, it starts at 40g and ends at 80g, but the point at which it actuates during this downward key travel is at 60g (halfway down).
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Then watch more videos.


"40-80g overall" means that throughout the entire key travel from the top to bottom, it starts at 40g and ends at 80g, but the point at which it actuates during this downward key travel is at 60g (halfway down).
so do you think i will like brown better then black move from ABS M1
post #5243 of 14551
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Originally Posted by Admiral Mudkipz View Post
Haha, I might. But first, can you post a comment of your experiences with gaming/typing on brown switches. I am more concerned with how well they type because I'm pretty sure they're good enough for gaming. I am relieved that they're still tactile, so I'll be able to know which keys I hit.
sorry can't due to the fact that i just got the keyboard yesterday, and I've more or less been cleaning/studying for my class and banned myself from the desktop where its plugged to.

currently on my desktop

but from the few times i went to play facebook typing games i find that it is quicker for me to type on but also easier to hit a key next to me since i guess you don't have to bottom out the key next to the one you are pressing may get pressed also

so someone else has to chime in
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so do you think i will like brown better then black move from ABS M1
You're really the only one who is capable of knowing the answer to this. I mean, it sounds to me like you would but what do you think? All that really matters is what you think.

I also recommend watching several YouTube videos if you have time to get a clearer idea of what switch you might like the most.
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You're really the only one who is capable of knowing the answer to this. I mean, it sounds to me like you would but what do you think? All that really matters is what you think.

I also recommend watching several YouTube videos if you have time to get a clearer idea of what switch you might like the most.
lol i watch alot alot of videos. i like the brown switches sound. i just cant feel the switch tru the video.
i will probably type alot for my next semester, i got college writing, public speaking, AutoCAD revit class.
so is really hard for me to decide which keyboard should go.. i game alot too. do home work alot too.
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lol i watch alot alot of videos. i like the brown switches sound. i just cant feel the switch tru the video.
i will probably type alot for my next semester, i got college writing, public speaking, AutoCAD revit class.
Ah, so if the click of the Cherry MX Blues adds just a bit too much sound, then a keyboard that uses the Cherry MX Browns might be the best choice - especially considering that they're tactile!
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post #5247 of 14551
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Ah, so if the click of the Cherry MX Blues adds just a bit too much sound, then a keyboard that uses the Cherry MX Browns might be the best choice - especially considering that they're tactile!
i tried the Blue switches from DAS before but i don't like it, so i return it.
don't like the clicky feel.
anyway, can you do a simple explain for me with tactile? i don't understand what tactile mean..my english suck.
thanks
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ooh no.. i got a feeling that a big wall is coming..lol
post #5249 of 14551
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Originally Posted by fssbzz View Post
i tried the Blue switches from DAS before but i don't like it, so i return it.
don't like the clicky feel.
anyway, can you do a simple explain for me with tactile? i don't understand what tactile mean..my english suck.
thanks
A picture is worth a thousand words.

http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en (scroll down a bunch)


They have 1 flash animation, and it's of the Cherry MX Blue switch:

http://park16.wakwak.com/~ex4/kb/tech/cherry_mx_click.swf

*Right-Click and Select "Play" to start movie.

(or click the text in the top of this animation to see an even bigger version)

Study this animation and also study their real photos as well as their drawings of the four Cherry MX Switch types that they show. You can see what makes the Cherry MX Blacks linear (non-tactile and non-clicky), and you can see what gives the Browns, Whites and Blues their tactile response.

This "tactile bump" can be described like this: imagine pressing a key downward in slow-motion. For tactile switches like the Cherry MX Browns, Blues and Whites (and the Alps Copies in the ABS M1), there is a bit of resistance at the beginning of the key stroke as you try to push it downward. Then, suddenly, it gives way and then you get past this bump and the remainder of the keystroke is linear because there's nothing else but the spring to provide resistance.

Some tactile switches have a more pronounced tactile bump than others, and the pictures on the page I linked above do an excellent job of showing why these differences exist. for example:





From left to right, it's the Cherry MX Black, Cherry MX White/Clear, Cherry MX Brown, and the Cherry MX Blue. The picture beneath is, of course, a diagram representing the Cherry MX Brown.

But again, visit the page I linked and study the pictures. After all, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Unfortunately, I don't have a source that shows the Alps Copies in the ABS M1. Although, I imagine there is some similar structure to it that gives it its tactile, but non-clicky characteristics.
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post #5250 of 14551
so the black doesn't have any tactile feeling?
because the pictures shows like it is just straight down....and the graph too...
and thanks for that super nice explanation. TwoCables. i appreciate alot!
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